[M_Six]

I don't have actual conversations, but for a while we had to have approval from the office of the university president for any purchase. I mean, anything. Back and forth over why we needed to buy $65 of RAM or a $15 cable. We wasted far more money in man hours going back and forth with this crap than we saved.

Then there was the whole back-to-the-office bit in July 2020, way before other folks were going back. I had an identical setup at home as I had in the office as far as desktops were concerned. My office phone was forwarded to my cell phone, and I handled everything online. No one knew if I was at home or sitting in my office because I never used my webcam for meetings. Just the mic. So when I got back to the office, I locked myself in my office and handled everything online. No one knew if I was at home or in my office. It was idiotic.