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Originally Posted by JoeAyalaM
I am sorry but I did not put anything in your mouth. Can you read your own post? You said they're dialed in without driving pleasure, I beg to differ.
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Allow me to clarify - there’s more riding pleasure than driving pleasure in BMW SUVs. And it didn’t used to be that way. Try driving something else that’s a step up in driving pleasure - Audi SQ7 or Mercedes AMG or Porsche Ceyenne. Then let me know if you understand what I’m saying here. Your response is a bit delusional. You’re saying I should switch vehicles and that I’m contradicting myself. Not true. I prefer the tradeoffs - after all, it’s an SUV. I also provided another more distinct and relevant example of what I mean and this has been corroborated in those threads - the M3 is numb and the driving feel comes from the chassis - drive by the seat of your pants. Driving the new CLE53AMG has been refreshing if only for the feel of the steering and brakes and a feeling of cohesiveness and connectedness. It’s a slower car to be sure but has feeling. Or the Blackwing or AQ have similarly more driving pleasure than the M3.
Look, I’ve been driving BMWs for 30 years. It’s not an ignorant or misguided critique or understanding on my part. There is nothing really debatable. The e39 M5 and older X5 gens and e46 and f8x and e9x M3’s were also better drivers cars. But yes I prefer the BMW SUVs to everything else because of how comfortable, efficient, fast, and reliable they are.