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      09-19-2024, 09:51 PM   #7
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awesome. and both the 911 and 718 specs are great. I think i would pick the cayman over the 992T maybe even the S just for the NA 4.0.

glad to hear the macan is a beast. we are currently shopping for a GTS. How would you compare it to a G80 xdrive in terms of inputs (steering, suspension, brakes, transmission feel) ?
It's hard to compare the Macan to the G80, they're very different. Obviously one's an SUV and one is a sports sedan. The G80 would make light work of the Macan. But if I was to focus on steering, suspension, brakes, transmission....

Porsche in general provides a bit more steering feel. Part of that is just simply down to better EPS tuning, and IMO part of that is also the steering wheel itself. These super thick BMW steering wheels might look nice and feel nice at first, but they rob what little steering feel they would have. So steering feel goes to the Macan... but the g80 is every bit as responsive to steering inputs.

Suspension, again is difficult to compare because it's an SUV vs a sedan. For an SUV the Macan does an incredible job and feels nimble on the track.... but it's no comparison to a sports sedan. The G80 will feel flatter in the corners, turn in will be sharper, and it won't get unsettled from imperfections on track. The Macan will undoubtedly exhibit more body roll, and a busier suspension as it tries to handle its extra weight and ride height. So not really a fair comparison but I'd give it to the G80.

The Macan brakes are really good, surprisingly good. But again the G80 has phenomenal braking as well. I'd give it a tie.

Transmission - now this is an interesting one. I have a 6MT G80 so obviously that isn't comparable... I have tracked an 8AT G80 before, so just going off memory here. The PDK in the Macan IMO is far superior. I kept it in automatic mode on the track, and I was shocked at how well it maintained the correct gear... almost as if it was reading my mind. Braking before a corner, it would downshift to the exact gear I myself would have put it in had I been using the paddles. It was a special experience. The G80 8AT on the other hand I felt like hunted for gears a lot more, and was easy to get caught in the wrong gear coming out of a corner resulting in some pretty catastrophic lag. Obviously some of that can be mitigated by using the paddles, but auto for auto, I felt the PDK was far superior to the ZF 8spd in the G80. Now I haven't tried a G80 with the CS software programming on it - I've heard that solves a lot of the issues with gear hunting and being caught in the wrong gear.
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