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Originally Posted by IanH
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I don't really care what CR says. My X5 was in the shop more in 6 months than our expedition was in 3 years. CR's data is bullshit.
That said, I agree Stellantis is doomed. They got rid of the product people wanted, dealers and then overcharged the crap out of their customers, and Tavares ran the company into the ground by trying to shove crappy euro products off on America. They have nothing good in the pipeline. The SST Hurricane motor has seemingly significant reliability issues. They stopped making the hemi V8s that WERE their brands. So now if you want a Grand Cherokee, your options are the 4xe (not great) or the Pentastar (not great). The L version only offers the pentastar. Durango was their last product that offered a V8, it's basically the last real dodge.
The EV charger is a flop and it's not even released yet. The hornet was a massive flop. Wagoneer S is likely to flop. Stellantis is in total catastrophe mode, and I'm stunned they haven't announced they're bringing back the Hemi yet because right now it looks like their best days are behind them.
Best case for Stellantis, they split what's left of Mopar off and sell it to some sort of investment firm to turn it around.