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Originally Posted by elp_jc
Indeed. Irrational justifications is what makes somebody a fanboy. And if you (or anybody else) gets offended by 'fanboy', you don't belong on an internet forum  . Everybody is a fanboy of something or somebody. No disrespect, 'belittling', or anything like that from me. Notice I didn't argue any further because nobody wins with diehard fans (aka fanboys)  . And if you don't like my posts, you can always skip them. Or even 'ignore' me if I'm that offensive to you  .
And about Alonso, you also missed the point many of us made with your selective reading  . What makes him a cheater is that he EXPECTS others to let him cheat. He DEMANDS that his teammate move over. He throws a finger to a great racer (Petrov) from a DIFFERENT team who didn't let him by. THAT's what we mean by 'cheater'. Taking advantage of opportunities you didn't expect (a penalty not called, somebody moving over for you, etc) doesn't make you a cheater.
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I just said that I respect your opinion, but now you are making me eat my own words. Calling someone a fanboy IS disrespecting their opinion. A fanboy is someone that is so blinded by one side that they can't appreciate another point of view. Have any of us displayed this? I don't know, but I know that
I personally make every attempt to at least acknowledge the other point of view. If your goal is to be incendiary and piss everyone off, then I'll back off. But if you're going to repeatedly make foolish and ridiculous statements with no substance and full conviction, then yes, I'm going to confront them!
I don't know how you define cheater, but all of those traits you just labeled above is NOT cheating. Getting flustered by another team holding you up is NOT cheating. Showing the finger is NOT cheating (although it's poor sporting behavior). Asking your teammate to move over is NOT cheating (although your team asking your teammate is). A cheater is someone who willfully breaks the rules; I see only one instance of that happening this season- Massa moving over - and that was only due to his TEAM asking Massa to move over. It sounds to me like you just don't like Alonso's "I'll do anything to win" personality, which is perfectly fine with me. But if he's NOT breaking the rules, he's NOT a cheater. Ok? If you're going to make accusations, as least understand the definitions first. Or if you're going to make up definitions, then at least be consistent - Hamilton is a cheater for jumping the safety car, Webber is a cheater for crashing into Hamilton, Vettel is a cheater for holding everyone up behind the safety car, etc.