[tranquility]

The photo shows metal studs, right? If so, how the heck can you mount them? If someone has actual experience, I'd love to hear from you. I have experience for concrete and wood-studded walls but this makes me nervous somehow as TVs still weigh 40-60lbs...but are these studs supposed to be stronger than wood ones? Are metal studs now used in lieu of wood ones and why? TIA.

EDIT: this is just what the 'insides' look like, I will have to deal w a finished wall. It is a residential, not commercial building.

[3.0L]

My taxidermist once asked me if I wanted my recently passed chipmunks mounted. I replied no, shaking hands would be good enough.

[Alfisti]

Yes many times, for commercial applications. You need to put plywood up where the tv is to go before you close the wall.

[tranquility]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

Yes many times, for commercial applications. You need to put plywood up where the tv is to go before you close the wall.

Regrets I made it confusing. It will be a finished wall, I just happened to see what is looks like without the drywall, etc.

[Murf993]

Butterfly/Toggle plugs, the big metal ones will hold 50lbs each use 4 then you don't have to worry about hitting a stud. I've done it many times. In fact I've used them to hang much heavier things than a TV.

https://www.amazon.ca/Tools-Home-Imp...ode=9526281011

[vreihen16]

Every school and commercial building in these parts has had to use metal studs as fire code for over 30 years now. I'm pretty sure that there are all kinds of 50+ pound whiteboards, shelves/cabinets, and televisions hanging by nothing more than long sheet metal screws into those metal studs.....

[ryan stewart]

You can either use a zinc screw type anchor or they make a kind of toggle bolt where you drill through the stud and when you pull the toggle out it flips sideways and grabs the back lip of the stud. The studs themselves are like paper when free but are shaped in a way that when they are screwed to the drywall taking away the ability to twist makes them operate like an i-beam of sorts, so they are strong. Most have an axial load of 300# + so as long as you do it right your TV isnt going to matter. Think about all of the cabinets and whatnot mounted to steel studs in commercial buildings. TVs on long armature mounts, medical equipment, etc.

You wont want to rely on the cheap $10 stud finders though, you really want to hit the middle of the stud. You can either get one of the nicer digital ones that use two sensors OR for almost no money get a little pack of the coin rare-earth magnets. Slide them up and down the wall until they stick to the fastener behind the drywall tape, then you can use a long rule to mark the stud in between the fasteners where you actually want the TV.

Here is a better alt to what murf posted, easier to get through a smaller hole and therefor through the stud itself.
https://www.amazon.com/TOGGLER-SNAPT...75289410&psc=1

[tranquility]

Originally Posted by Murf993

Butterfly/Toggle plugs, the big metal ones will hold 50lbs each use 4 then you don't have to worry about hitting a stud. I've done it many times. In fact I've used them to hang much heavier things than a TV.

https://www.amazon.ca/Tools-Home-Imp...ode=9526281011

Tx, but I feel better hitting a stud or preferably 2+.

[HFW003]

My house is built with a steel frame and I have two 85 inch TV’s mounted on the walls. There is ply behind the gyprock and I also screwed into the studs, just in case.

[JasonDavis]

I actually don't like to hit studs in commercial due to it being sheet metal, and given the thicker drywall requirement, I like to use these bolts below. In concert with stacked washers, there has never been anything that I have used these on that wasn't rock solid using just drywall. Use one each at the corner of your mount up to 65" and 1 foot off the wall and call it a day.
Either way, you're going to need an anchor, steel studs or not, and I would recommend these

[Alfisti]

No one has a fucking clue what gymprock is HF, it's drywall or confused dog turning it's head face.

The toggles there guys are talking about are odd looking, they come on long plastic rods, you push the metal toggle through, then pull the rods, snap them off and if done right these fuckers will hold a SHIT TON of weight. And I mean a shit ton.

But i hear ya, I don't like it either.

[tranquility]

Originally Posted by JasonDavis

I actually don't like to hit studs in commercial due to it being sheet metal, and given the thicker drywall requirement, I like to use these bolts below. In concert with stacked washers, there has never been anything that I have used these on that wasn't rock solid using just drywall. Use one each at the corner of your mount up to 65" and 1 foot off the wall and call it a day.
Either way, you're going to need an anchor, steel studs or not, and I would recommend these

Ok, I'm confused about the first sentence, it's a residential building, not commercial (I dunno the difference in terms of requirements).

[JasonDavis]

Originally Posted by tranquility

Ok, I'm confused about the first sentence, it's a residential building, not commercial (I dunno the difference in terms of requirements).

Generally speaking, metal studs are in commercial, and I've only seen them there, but some here have them in their residential.
The requirements comment was pertaining to thickness and fire rating requirements, which is, again, generally 5/8 thick, and nice and solid enough to hold any tv you can fit inside.
Personally I try to avoid metal studs because I almost never have the right size bit to drill it out, hate the sound, and never can find my stud finder.

[Steeler]

+1 for toggles.
I use Hilti hollow wall anchors frequently.
High shear strength......best to hit studs if you can of course.
Remember that the weight of the tv is divided by 2 for straight pull(top 2 bolts) and divided by 4 for shear.

Page 3 for specs.
https://www.hilti.com/c/CLS_FASTENER...HORS_7135/r226

[MsGoGoMoto]

1. Cut out a section of drywall where you want the TV and add wood blocking. Reinstall the drywall.
Or
2. Get some 2x4s and screw it against the drywall horizontally overlapping (2) studs are while making sure the screws are long enough to get through the 2x4, drywall; and into the studs.
Be sure to line up the TV bracket screws with the studs.
Or

3. Get a 19.99 tv bracket from big lots. Its designed to line up with the studs and bolt to wall.
Here is mine.

[stevenc]

Dont over think it. Some good drywall fasteners will hold a TV just fine. Especially if you flat mount the TV. Dont use a swing arm mount as those put lots of strain on the wall. A flat TV mount with drywall ancors will hold without issue.

I like pop toggle anchors

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Hillman-...6477/302043756

[HFW003]

Originally Posted by JasonDavis

never can find my stud finder.

PSA for anyone with a metal framed home, I use a magnet wrapped in a small bit of cloth to find the studs when I need.

Run the magnet across the gyprock and it will stick to the studs.

[VChenz]

Originally Posted by stevenc

Dont over think it. Some good drywall fasteners will hold a TV just fine. Especially if you flat mount the TV. Dont use a swing arm mount as those put lots of strain on the wall. A flat TV mount with drywall ancors will hold without issue.

I like pop toggle anchors

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Hillman-...6477/302043756

I did what this guy suggested. I used hollow wall anchors. They hold about 80-90lbs per anchor. I used 6 on my 75" tv and bought a mount with a larger backing plate to spread out the load as much as possible. Definitely don't want to use any type of swivel arm mount.

https://www.thespruce.com/wall-anchor-types-uses-application-hollow-wall-anchor-3898923

[JasonDavis]

Originally Posted by HFW003

PSA for anyone with a metal framed home, I use a magnet wrapped in a small bit of cloth to find the studs when I need.

Run the magnet across the gyprock and it will stick to the studs.

Thanks for this…although thinking about it now I'm thinking my wife threw it away because I kept holding the stud finder to my body and saying "oh, found it"

[tranquility]

Originally Posted by JasonDavis

Thanks for this…although thinking about it now I'm thinking my wife threw it away because I kept holding the stud finder to my body and saying "oh, found it"

I use that trick in front of my wife too


Shall I assume that any electrical wire is loosely attached to any metal stud, so any bolt/screw is unlikely to pierce them?

I guess this task is almost identical to installing on wood-studded walls.


EDIT: btw, some of you guys are brave. I know there are toggle bolts that can hang 10 swinging gorillas from them but it doesn't sit right w me my TV relying upon the integrity of the drywall. Again, I know it's supposed to be good, but I'll personally always be nervous about that so it's not an option for me.

[HFW003]

Originally Posted by tranquility

I use that trick in front of my wife too


Shall I assume that any electrical wire is loosely attached to any metal stud, so any bolt/screw is unlikely to pierce them?

I guess this task is almost identical to installing on wood-studded walls.


EDIT: btw, some of you guys are brave. I know there are toggle bolts that can hang 10 swinging gorillas from them but it doesn't sit right w me my TV relying upon the integrity of the drywall. Again, I know it's supposed to be good, but I'll personally always be nervous about that so it's not an option for me.

It’s a rite of passage for all handymen (and women) to say that to their partner!

Here’s my 85 inch tv up on the wall. I still shit myself every time the frame expands/contracts with the temperature.

[tranquility]

Originally Posted by HFW003

It’s a rite of passage for all handymen (and women) to say that to their partner!

Here’s my 85 inch tv up on the wall. I still shit myself every time the frame expands/contracts with the temperature.

Beautiful layout, mate!