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      09-02-2023, 09:30 AM   #1
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Tesla Model 3 refresh

What do people think? Made the front end less bulbous which is a good thing.

https://electrek.co/2023/08/31/tesla...more-features/
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      09-02-2023, 09:52 AM   #2
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I think it looks great and seems to have a lot of nice little improvements. Unfortunately, I think this is the Chinese version, so hoping the US version gets these design and mechanical improvements.
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      09-02-2023, 10:22 AM   #3
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Nice refresh. Where are they going to put the amber corner reflectors required in North America? It will likely ruin the very clean front bumper or headlights.
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      09-02-2023, 10:27 AM   #4
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Far better than anything BMW can come up with lately.
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1000lbs lighter than an equivalent i4, tesla is doing something right.
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      09-02-2023, 11:39 AM   #6
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1000lbs lighter than an equivalent i4, tesla is doing something right.
Wow can that be right? That’s amazing.
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      09-02-2023, 02:09 PM   #7
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I guess I'm in the minority. I think the front is meh. The rear looks better, but I always thought the rear was the ugliest part of the car. Interior is practically the same and I hate the fact they removed the stalks for gear selection and turn signals. The only plus on the inside IMO is the cooled seats.
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      09-02-2023, 02:09 PM   #8
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Nice improvements on the interior and I really like the changes to the front bumper.
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      09-02-2023, 02:26 PM   #9
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Doesn't that look alot like the S?
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      09-02-2023, 04:33 PM   #10
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Wow can that be right? That’s amazing.
Yup model 3 performance is 4000lbs and i4 m50 is 5000.
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1000lbs lighter than an equivalent i4, tesla is doing something right.
There's a reason it's lighter... the overall quality just isn't the same. The G80 weighs about the same as my old model 3 while being roughly the same size, and the level of quality in materials/sound deadening/etc is not even close. Add a 1k lbs battery pack and you get to the weight of an i4
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      09-02-2023, 05:08 PM   #12
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There's a reason it's lighter... the overall quality just isn't the same. The G80 weighs about the same as my old model 3 while being roughly the same size, and the level of quality in materials/sound deadening/etc is not even close. Add a 1k lbs battery pack and you get to the weight of an i4
I don’t think I want an extra 1000 pounds of quality.
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      09-03-2023, 01:39 PM   #13
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Looks like a Mazda 3. Perfect.

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I don’t think I want an extra 1000 pounds of quality.
I'd take quality. These are daily's, not track cars.
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      09-03-2023, 02:46 PM   #14
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It's a price cut through the back door...yeah it looks nicer.
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It's weird.... it looks better than the current one... but also somehow looks even more like a budget economy car. This wouldn't look out of place among a sea of corollas and civics.
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Is it even going to be sold in the US given its produced in shanghai
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      09-03-2023, 03:35 PM   #17
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Is it even going to be sold in the US given its produced in shanghai
It will be built in the US but it will take a bit longer to convert the factory lines here. China went first.
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Looks even more like the generic appliance that it is now!
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Now it's 2023 Boring instead of 2011 Boring
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I am not 100% clear I see the difference lol...

I would have expected more interior upgrades as everyone knows that's where Tesla falls apart... now, there is even less buttons and they removed all of the gear and turn stalks.... odd decisions across the board.

Still no dash with a speedo nor a heads up from what I can tell... again, it's obvious this car is designed around manufacturing efficiency and not really the customer.
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Good looking refresh. I'm interested to know if any upgrades have been made to the technology, namely camera, infotainment processor, infotainment screen resolution, and charging speeds. Also, are there any performance upgrades to the motors?
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I think it will likely continue to sell well.
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