Future BMW models information

DDS2015 · 08-07-2019, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by RPM33

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Originally Posted by ynguldyn

I have found several independent confirmations of this.

One more F87 M2 model is possible. Just looking at timing, it should be something very special, with a very short production run. And it will be US only.

Top post updated with this and also another M2 version.)

Is this M2 version a CSL? Any confirmation about production dates?

To me...if you are going to make an M2 racing.. then they should be making an extra 1000 of everything and make a CSL just like they did back when they made the E30 M3 sport evo ..

I deduced this many moons ago once I saw the timing of when the M2 ends , and knowing how BMW sells M2 when they cannot sell M4 ..

The EOP for the M2 is 6/21 and there simply is time ( despite the protestations of others ) for an additional model and why not call it CSL.

As I said when I placed a photo of it on my computer in 2016... just take the moto GP M2 race car and put a price tag on it !

It shouldn't have taken BMW years to figure this out .. but then again ..perhaps indeed, these things are planned years out , and BMW product planning hasn't change much since the 1980s .. bring the special editions at the VERY end.

They aren't going to revive the legendary CSL designation on an old model nor their entry level M model.

Sure they will. Or i should say.. if they have balls they will.

M8 CSL - as an flagship track model
M4 CSL. - as an M4 sendoff
M2 CSL - one year delay - see above

Next year in 2020.

I'm just going to stick with wanting an M2CS, with a manual.

Honestly I'm getting fed up with the run around and the rumours. I wanted the most hardcore version of the M2. However I think that the F87 is already the best chassis BMW makes currently as a "driver's car" the bigger models are great GT cars, but unless you go to the GTS/CSL, they start to fall flat.

Plus, it's hard to justify more than one of the same model, even if it's different like CS to CSL

GlazierGlaze · 08-07-2019, 11:26 AM

When will we have a confirmed debut date? I'm hoping to get confirmation on whether it is happening in September or not.

Miko M · 08-07-2019, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DDS2015

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Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

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Originally Posted by MDuckie

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Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

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Originally Posted by RPM33

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Originally Posted by ynguldyn

I have found several independent confirmations of this.

One more F87 M2 model is possible. Just looking at timing, it should be something very special, with a very short production run. And it will be US only.

Top post updated with this and also another M2 version.)

Is this M2 version a CSL? Any confirmation about production dates?

To me...if you are going to make an M2 racing.. then they should be making an extra 1000 of everything and make a CSL just like they did back when they made the E30 M3 sport evo ..

I deduced this many moons ago once I saw the timing of when the M2 ends , and knowing how BMW sells M2 when they cannot sell M4 ..

The EOP for the M2 is 6/21 and there simply is time ( despite the protestations of others ) for an additional model and why not call it CSL.

As I said when I placed a photo of it on my computer in 2016... just take the moto GP M2 race car and put a price tag on it !

It shouldn't have taken BMW years to figure this out .. but then again ..perhaps indeed, these things are planned years out , and BMW product planning hasn't change much since the 1980s .. bring the special editions at the VERY end.

They aren't going to revive the legendary CSL designation on an old model nor their entry level M model.

Sure they will. Or i should say.. if they have balls they will.

M8 CSL - as an flagship track model
M4 CSL. - as an M4 sendoff
M2 CSL - one year delay - see above

Next year in 2020.

I'm just going to stick with wanting an M2CS, with a manual.

Honestly I'm getting fed up with the run around and the rumours. I wanted the most hardcore version of the M2. However I think that the F87 is already the best chassis BMW makes currently as a "driver's car" the bigger models are great GT cars, but unless you go to the GTS/CSL, they start to fall flat.

Plus, it's hard to justify more than one of the same model, even if it's different like CS to CSL

I am with you man.
I just can't wait anymore.
I buy cars every 6 months yo a year and now this waiting is kicking mine ....

sguler · 08-07-2019, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GlazierGlaze

When will we have a confirmed debut date? I'm hoping to get confirmation on whether it is happening in September or not.

Car Magazine still says Frankfurt debut in September. I do believe that given we have seen so many spy photos this summer.

Mrgunfun · 08-07-2019, 12:50 PM

Someone asked this before, not going to happen this year.

CanAutM3 · 08-07-2019, 02:10 PM

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Car Magazine still says Frankfurt debut in September. I do believe that given we have seen so many spy photos this summer.

I doubt BMW would unveil the new G80 M3 while the F82/3 M4 is still in production.

Alpine300zhp · 08-07-2019, 03:16 PM

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Car Magazine still says Frankfurt debut in September. I do believe that given we have seen so many spy photos this summer.

I doubt BMW would unveil the new G80 M3 while the F82/3 M4 is still in production.

Exactly. This will never happen based on my experience of owning M3/M4 dating back to the E36. I expect the unveiling sometime next year with release sometime in the summer or fall of next year as a 2021 model (G80/82 together).

RPM33 · 08-07-2019, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Miko M

I am with you man.
I just can't wait anymore.
I buy cars every 6 months yo a year and now this waiting is kicking mine ....

I think the M2 CS is being revealed in November at LA auto show. Hopefully it will be made clear if a M2 CSL is coming out or not.

I saw that M4 CS ends production in February 2020, so it makes sense that M2 CS goes in production one month later in March 2020.

alex2364 · 08-07-2019, 03:38 PM

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Exactly. This will never happen based on my experience of owning M3/M4 dating back to the E36. I expect the unveiling sometime next year with release sometime in the summer or fall of next year as a 2021 model (G80/82 together).

If this is true and F83 production won't end until August 2020 according to ynguldyn's first post in this thread, it won't be unveiled until September 2020 at the earliest.

ynguldyn · 08-07-2019, 03:48 PM

There's no such thing as G86.

Alpine300zhp · 08-07-2019, 03:49 PM

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Exactly. This will never happen based on my experience of owning M3/M4 dating back to the E36. I expect the unveiling sometime next year with release sometime in the summer or fall of next year as a 2021 model (G80/82 together).

If this is true and F83 production won't end until August 2020 according to ynguldyn's first post in this thread, it won't be unveiled until September 2020 at the earliest.

Sounds about right to me....

ynguldyn · 08-07-2019, 03:49 PM

BTW that front page picture is scary af. And it totally doesn't look like how I do it (hint: tea leaves, not crystal ball).

ynguldyn · 08-07-2019, 03:57 PM

Is it me, or does G26 look more like 4GT than 4GC here?

https://www.autoblog.com/2019/08/07/...s-hot-weather/

RPM33 · 08-07-2019, 04:02 PM

Ynguldyn: Care to shed light whether there will be a M2 CS and M2 CSL? Can you confirm reveal dates? November?

nbennettksu · 08-07-2019, 04:06 PM

I call bullshit on manual not being offered in AWD; the E53 and E83 both had manual variants as well as the E70.

ynguldyn · 08-07-2019, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RPM33

Ynguldyn: Care to shed light whether there will be a M2 CS and M2 CSL? Can you confirm reveal dates? November?

CS is the one we've known about for a long time, and it's coming soon. The timeframe mentioned a few posts higher seems plausible. The name of the new special version I don't know yet.

JRobUSC · 08-07-2019, 04:40 PM

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I call bullshit on manual not being offered in AWD; the E53 and E83 both had manual variants as well as the E70.

The E70 wasn’t available in a manual, and the other two you referenced went out of production 9 and 13 years ago. All of those were also SUV’s, which there’s about a 0% chance of being offered as a stick today. If you’re going to use examples for AWD sticks from BMW, the 3-Series offered AWD and a stick as recently as the 340i xDrive sedan that just ended production last year. That’s a much more applicable and recent example.

///M TOWN · 08-07-2019, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ynguldyn

Is it me, or does G26 look more like 4GT than 4GC here?

https://www.autoblog.com/2019/08/07/...s-hot-weather/

Agreed ‼️

GlazierGlaze · 08-07-2019, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ynguldyn

CS is the one we've known about for a long time, and it's coming soon. The timeframe mentioned a few posts higher seems plausible. The name of the new special version I don't know yet.

Will or wont the G80 be at the Frankfurt show? Yes or no.

Ragged Edge · 08-07-2019, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GlazierGlaze

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Originally Posted by ynguldyn

CS is the one we've known about for a long time, and it's coming soon. The timeframe mentioned a few posts higher seems plausible. The name of the new special version I don't know yet.

Will or wont the G80 be at the Frankfurt show? Yes or no.

Really unlikely. As mentioned before, the F83 EOP is August 2020, so the G80/82 will most likely be revealed in September of 2020. Not much sense in revealing a new model when the F8x is still being produced.

Alpine300zhp · 08-07-2019, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by nbennettksu

I call bullshit on manual not being offered in AWD; the E53 and E83 both had manual variants as well as the E70.

The E70 wasn’t available in a manual, and the other two you referenced went out of production 9 and 13 years ago. All of those were also SUV’s, which there’s about a 0% chance of being offered as a stick today. If you’re going to use examples for AWD sticks from BMW, the 3-Series offered AWD and a stick as recently as the 340i xDrive sedan that just ended production last year. That’s a much more applicable and recent example.

Agreed. I had one of those rare E53 manuals.....

upsidedownfunnel · 08-07-2019, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by nbennettksu

I call bullshit on manual not being offered in AWD; the E53 and E83 both had manual variants as well as the E70.

No one is saying it can't be done. Of course it can be done. Even the F30 340i was offered in AWD with a manual transmission.

The problem is that they're trying to reduce drivetrain configurations to reduce costs. EVERYONE is doing this because of the amount of money being spent on EV development. I also feel like they're trying to hunker down as some signs point to a possible downturn in auto sales and maybe even a recession.

If the G80 6MT RWD was up in the air, then what do you think the chances of an AWD 6MT being produced are? It's still possible of course, but it makes sense that BMW wouldn't make it. We'll see I guess.

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