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      04-22-2025, 08:39 AM   #397
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No chance.

I think the 5 sec penalty was fair if we look at previous similar situations since the "who's in front at the apex rule" is in place.

However, rumors are that RB has been in touch with the stewards before the race about this kind of situations, because in the F2 race prior to the F1 race no penlty's where given for similar situations. So they wanted to know if it would be the same in the F1 race.
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No chance.

I think the 5 sec penalty was fair if we look at previous similar situations since the "who's in front at the apex rule" is in place.

However, rumors are that RB has been in touch with the stewards before the race about this kind of situations, because in the F2 race prior to the F1 race no penlty's where given for similar situations. So they wanted to know if it would be the same in the F1 race.
I don't see why the 5 sec. penalty was fear .

Piastri was going 2 times too wide , in T1 and in T2 (!)
Piastri took MAX with him on the outside by going extremely wide and pushed MAX off track ..

At Miami MAX won't back off (!) You can bet on that ..
At least if he gets the chance , because at Miami McLaren has a huge advantage in the slow corners .

MAX got a 5 sec. penalty because he wanted to avoid a collision.
The FIA s@cks (as usual)!
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Four times Verstappen abused the ahead-at-the-apex rule...

Wait, Max isn’t innocent and does aggressive driving bending the rules to his advantage? I’m shocked I tell you!

The Brazil incident was the most blatant and I can’t believe he didn’t get a penalty for that.

I’m glad they are cracking down on the let off the brake move to try and win the apex at all costs no matter who it is.

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four times verstappen abused the ahead-at-the-apex rule...

but lewis!!!!1111!!1!
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I don't see why the 5 sec. penalty was fear .

Piastri was going 2 times too wide , in T1 and in T2 (!)
Piastri took MAX with him on the outside by going extremely wide and pushed MAX off track ..

At Miami MAX won't back off (!) You can bet on that ..
At least if he gets the chance , because at Miami McLaren has a huge advantage in the slow corners .

MAX got a 5 sec. penalty because he wanted to avoid a collision.
The FIA s@cks (as usual)!
I'm told "Ahead at the apex" translates to "divebomb" in Dutch. Is that true?
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I'm told "Ahead at the apex" translates to "divebomb" in Dutch. Is that true?
Divebomb in Dutch ...
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Divebomb in Dutch ...
I was teasing.
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I was teasing.
Here is a ultimate non-stop divebomb (!)

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Here is a ultimate non-stop divebomb (!)

Please see my previous preemptive comment:

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Please see my previous preemptive comment:
Right . But '29 times off track (with 4 wheels off track)! In just one race ...

That's absolutely an F1 record . No one can beat that (!)

And BTW ...No penalty
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Right . But '29 times off track (with 4 wheels off track)! In just one race ...

That's absolutely an F1 record . No one can beat that (!)

And BTW ...No penalty
21 isn't 2025. Besides, Max "won" that race, why do you keep bringing it up?
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21 isn't 2025. Besides, Max "won" that race, why do you keep bringing it up?
Well..You wanted to know what a divebomb was , so I showed you the ultimate divebomb .

I was thinking , LEW is lost on the track...
But LEW managed to find the finish line
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Well..You wanted to know what a divebomb was , so I showed you the ultimate divebomb .

I was thinking , LEW is lost on the track...
But LEW managed to find the finish line
1. This isn't a dive bomb
2. They were allowed to cut this corner - everyone was. No one was allowed to cut it while over taking.

Lewis continues to live rent free, because you know he is better than Max. You just can't help talking about him.
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1. This isn't a dive bomb
2. They were allowed to cut this corner - everyone was. No one was allowed to cut it while over taking.

Lewis continues to live rent free, because you know he is better than Max. You just can't help talking about him.
1. I know exactly what a dive bomb is.
2. See the text in red (so do I)!

LEW is not worth to talk about him. Even the Italians are already tired of him.
LEW will not finish this season at Ferrari . LEW will retire as a shame for motorsports .

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What would Max have done if there was a huge gravel pit, or a wall there? Not a shot in the world he would have tried to go around Piastri on the outside. Max had zero intention of making that corner.

He avoided the accident, great, but give back the place that you stole, and re-take it on track.
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Guys.. I'm not getting involved in this any more.
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What would Max have done if there was a huge gravel pit, or a wall there? Not a shot in the world he would have tried to go around Piastri on the outside. Max had zero intention of making that corner.

He avoided the accident, great, but give back the place that you stole, and re-take it on track.
The Jeddah track s@cks , walls everywhere and the few run offs should be a gravel trap.
The Jeddah track is very dangerous (nowhere to go)! => https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...9&postcount=10

Red Bull Team orders (!)

The Red Bull Team was convinced that MAX was pushed off track twice (in T1 and T2)!
And yes . MAX avoided the accident .
Why should MAX give the place back . To smoke his tyres in the dirty air behind Piastri ?

Then came the 5 sec. penalty.
After the race MAX was banned from speaking about his penalty.
The rest we know...
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The Red Bull Team was convinced that MAX was pushed off track twice (in T1 and T2)!
And yes . MAX avoided the accident .
Why should MAX give the place back . To smoke his tyres in the dirty air behind Piastri ?

Then came the 5 sec. penalty.
After the race MAX was banned from speaking about his penalty.
The rest we know...
RedBull made the right decision to force the stewards to make the decision. Giving the place back would have obviously given up the place, whereas if they were to have been able to play their cards better, they could have had Max more than 5 seconds ahead and the penalty would have meant nothing. Max has done that before. "Send them my regards". But Piastri is too fast, it obviously didn't work.

The penalty was appropriate. Piastri was very clearly ahead. Max only came alongside because he divebombed on the outside. Something he wouldn't have done if there were a gravel pit or wall there, he would have needed to yield the place to Piastri or risk a crash. But he didn't, he overtook by running off the track, deserving of a penalty.

Lawson received a 10 second penalty for a similar problem. He went too hard into turn 1 and couldn't keep it on track for turn 2, so he got a 10 second penalty despite being clearly ahead at turn 1.

Dirty tricks getting cleaned up. I like it.
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RedBull made the right decision to force the stewards to make the decision. Giving the place back would have obviously given up the place, whereas if they were to have been able to play their cards better, they could have had Max more than 5 seconds ahead and the penalty would have meant nothing. Max has done that before. "Send them my regards". But Piastri is too fast, it obviously didn't work.

The penalty was appropriate. Piastri was very clearly ahead. Max only came alongside because he divebombed on the outside. Something he wouldn't have done if there were a gravel pit or wall there, he would have needed to yield the place to Piastri or risk a crash. But he didn't, he overtook by running off the track, deserving of a penalty.

Lawson received a 10 second penalty for a similar problem. He went too hard into turn 1 and couldn't keep it on track for turn 2, so he got a 10 second penalty despite being clearly ahead at turn 1.

Dirty tricks getting cleaned up. I like it.
Lando did exactly the same in 2024 . Lando was going too wide and pushed MAX off track.
Lando got the penalty for : "Forcing another car off track" (!)

Yeah . Dirty tricks getting cleaned up but it just depends who the marshals are .
The F1 marshals/stewards are just volunteers, actually idiots . And usually they really s@ck.
Most of them don't even know what the track and race regulations are ...

Just take a look of the Jeddah idiots. They don't know what left or right is => https://www.reddit.com/r/formuladank...not_having_it/
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