[Efthreeoh]

When I bought my 2022 Ford, I just went all Boomer with it and turned off the modem. Lol.

No updates, no connected services. Pure automotive bliss, just like the old days back in Boomerville.

[Efthreeoh]

OP, if there is an option to pay by snail mail, just send a check for $12.50 every month.

[eliphil]

Originally Posted by heavyD^2

I don't know why people even bother with automaker systems when AA or CarPlay is seamless from vehicle to vehicle (never have to learn a new UI), does the job perfectly fine, and provides several different navigation and streaming options for the user to choose from.

Exactly why be tied to the cars limitations

[omasou]

Originally Posted by egparson202

I agree. And I think Apple CarPlay Ultra will move us all even further in this direction.

It could, if BMW didn't decide to go with AOSP.

If it works as well as my SONY/Google TV, there might be a lot of BMWs on the side of the road

BMW Operating System X: intelligent, versatile, fit for the future.
The new BMW Operating System X represents an update of the latest operating system, as used in many BMW models, and is a wholly in-house development from BMW. Like BMW Operating System 9, it is based on an Android Open Source Project (AOSP) software stack. It offers even greater update and upgrade capability than the predecessor system, making it both fit for the future and backwards compatible. It is ready to accommodate additional functions and will keep vehicles equipped with the new BMW Panoramic iDrive at the cutting edge of technology over a long period of time.
“The overall concept of the new BMW Panoramic iDrive with Operating System X has been enabled by a large technological leap forward,” says Stephan Durach Senior Vice President Connected Company BMW Group. “It offers intuitive operation, emotionally engaging experiences and specific personalisation. The new BMW iDrive with Operating System X demonstrates the potential of a software-defined vehicle.”

https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/globa...25?language=en

[Purple_Bimmer]

As for someone who very recently replaced an Acura with a new X3: Good luck trying to find a different manufacturer that doesn't have a monthly fee for their connected service. At least with BMW in the short time I've used actually feels well designed and what I can call "good". Unlike that dog**** that Acura has (there's a reason why their Android app has like barely even 2 stars and far behind anyone else).

Also glad that apparently it even has a 5G modem so it should be future proof for at least a little while.

[jamesinaz]

Originally Posted by Purple_Bimmer

As for someone who very recently replaced an Acura with a new X3: Good luck trying to find a different manufacturer that doesn't have a monthly fee for their connected service. At least with BMW in the short time I've used actually feels well designed and what I can call "good". Unlike that dog**** that Acura has (there's a reason why their Android app has like barely even 2 stars and far behind anyone else).

Also glad that apparently it even has a 5G modem so it should be future proof for at least a little while.

I got over my snit having to pay a subscription. Paid the $150. Now it isn't reliable. Worked a champ for 4 years. Since it ended and I had to restart it it is fubar. My experience on the phone fixing it isn't good either. BMW is disappointing me in a big way.

BTW so far as I can tell Kia/Hyundai/Genesis don't have subscriptions but I could be wrong.

[eugenebmw]

Originally Posted by JABCAT

The funny part is it's no different than BMW giving you 3/36 of included maintenance. After that you have to pay for it. I don't see anyone complaining that lifetime maintenance isn't included.

I do wish they offer lifetime free maintenance. I heard changing the spark plugs on the M8 is over $1000. May be I stop driving. No need to change

[eliphil]

Originally Posted by eugenebmw

I do wish they offer lifetime free maintenance. I heard changing the spark plugs on the M8 is over $1000. May be I stop driving. No need to change

I just paid that for my 22 m550 after 55000 miles hard to believe it shouldn’t have been 100k like most cars

[eugenebmw]

Originally Posted by eliphil

I just paid that for my 22 m550 after 55000 miles hard to believe it shouldn’t have been 100k like most cars

I check the Canadian BMW maintenance schedules, spark plugs change for the V8 engines are scheduled to change every 3 years.

[eliphil]

Originally Posted by eugenebmw

I check the Canadian BMW maintenance schedules, spark plugs change for the V8 engines are scheduled to change every 3 years.

Yup I don’t understand why it’s not miles

[BlkGS]

Originally Posted by eliphil

Yup I don’t understand why it’s not miles

Because it's a great incentive to get people to trade their car in when they get told they're gonna have a $1000 service on top of their normal monthly payment.

[eliphil]

Originally Posted by BlkGS

Because it's a great incentive to get people to trade their car in when they get told they're gonna have a $1000 service on top of their normal monthly payment.

Another greedy corporation for sure. Same shit in hvac industry and appliances

[UPSROD]

Originally Posted by BlkGS

Because it's a great incentive to get people to trade their car in when they get told they're gonna have a $1000 service on top of their normal monthly payment.

If they have a payment!

[eugenebmw]

Originally Posted by BlkGS

Because it's a great incentive to get people to trade their car in when they get told they're gonna have a $1000 service on top of their normal monthly payment.

If the spark plug service doesn't work, they will throw at you for another big bill. This time is the brake service. $3000 for front iron brake and $3000 for the rear brake. If you are so lucky to have carbon ceramic brake, your whole month of salary will gone in no time.

[G30M]

Originally Posted by jamesinaz

Currently driving a 2021 X5. Only 32K miles and overall like the car a lot. But at the 4 year mark suddenly the voice command system became "stupid". Oh, Connected Drive is a subscription service. $12.50 a month.

That kind of nickel and dime treatment for a car over $80K is annoying. If I buy a car with a feature that feature should not die. GPS updates? OK I'd pay it is new data they collected. But the actual feature didn't change or add funtionality.

Guess I'm checking out alternatives and might dump this car far earlier than I planned. I'm sure some will come on and diss me over such a minor expense but hey, it's how I feel.

BMW is losing a customer who has owned 4 of them in the last 15 years and probably would have bought another one in a few more years.

all the best. i do find the BMW connectivity being one of the best before mine also got locked out.

i'm sure you know the subs are getting worse, soon you will have to pay subs for seat heating for example.

there are alternative cars that give you everything for life without paying extra, and are just as luxurious without the show off branding.

[G30M]

Originally Posted by heavyD^2

I don't know why people even bother with automaker systems when AA or CarPlay is seamless from vehicle to vehicle (never have to learn a new UI), does the job perfectly fine, and provides several different navigation and streaming options for the user to choose from.

can you tell me how i can get Android Auto to send SMS to my son?

when i tell it to send message to XXX xxx it will show me everyone in my contacts except for the exact person i summoned. it knows who i said because my son's name is spelt out perfectly by Android Auto, which is the same exact spelling as his contact, but it will not message him. it's driving me insane!

[jamesinaz]

Originally Posted by G30M

all the best. i do find the BMW connectivity being one of the best before mine also got locked out.

i'm sure you know the subs are getting worse, soon you will have to pay subs for seat heating for example.

there are alternative cars that give you everything for life without paying extra, and are just as luxurious without the show off branding.

Well I tried to pay for BMW connect and they couldn't keep it working. Sure, we get it going and 48 hours later gone again. I gave up and am using Apple Carplay and it offers everything I had before now that I'm used to it. Maybe more.

To BMWs credit they did refund my $150 when they couldn't get it working.