glennQNYC wrote

Electric drive will mark the demise of manual transmissions. Not sure how adding electric drive to every BMW in the future syncs up with retaining manual trannys.

glennQNYC wrote

Electric drive will mark the demise of manual transmissions.

Not sure how adding electric drive to every BMW in the future syncs up with retaining manual trannys.

wdeerfield wrote

automatic braking will render the manual obsolete in the US when that becomes a requirement from the federal government. Not sure how you can prevent the manual transmission from stalling the car if the car has to have emergency automatic braking. Im sure its possible but i cant think of how it would work currently.

wdeerfield wrote

automatic braking will render the manual obsolete in the US when that becomes a requirement from the federal government. Not sure how you can prevent the manual transmission from stalling the car if the car has to have emergency automatic braking. Im sure its possible but i cant think of how it would work currently.

Red Bread wrote

Mazda has it with their manual cars.

A handful of automakers currently offer cars with a stick shift and automatic emergency braking. Among them are Mazda and BMW, two brands enthusiasts have long gravitated toward. Instead of a clutch override that prevents their engines from stalling, these cars will actually stall but still come to a stop on their own.

In Mazda's case, the safety tech is available on its Mazda 3 and Mazda 6 compact and mid-size cars with stick shifts. At a BMW dealership, you can pair a manual with automatic emergency braking on the brand's M3 and M4.

We surveyed both brands and found that their cars are capable of automatically halting without any driver intervention in certain situations. Even if the driver doesn't respond to a loud alarm, flashing lights, and even rapid deceleration, the car will stop—and it will stall unless the driver manages to press in the clutch pedal.

Both brands indicated that their cars will still automatically apply the brakes with full force even if the engine itself has stalled. The only real downside here is that the driver needs to manually restart the car in order to begin moving again after (theoretically) avoiding an accident.

3M TAPE wrote

Here we go again, manual vs. automatic transmission debate.
Let's begin.

glennQNYC wrote

Electric drive will mark the demise of manual transmissions. Not sure how adding electric drive to every BMW in the future syncs up with retaining manual trannys.

ShocknAwe wrote

There have already been developments which will allow both automated features and electric motors to function while augmented by a MT transmission.

Question is if manufacturers will bother. We'll see with the rise of hybrid performance cars.

No one wrote

"From a rational standpoint, a manual transmission makes no sense—it's slower, and fuel economy is worse than with an automated transmission," Van Meel said. "Put that aside, it has an emotional component, which means there are a lot of people who love manual transmissions."

From a rational standpoint, a BMW makes no sense—it's expensive, and still quite the same thing as another car. Put that aside, it has an emotional component, which means there are a lot of people who love BMWs.

3M TAPE wrote

Here we go again, manual vs. automatic transmission debate.
Let's begin.

wdeerfield wrote

automatic braking will render the manual obsolete in the US when that becomes a requirement from the federal government. Not sure how you can prevent the manual transmission from stalling the car if the car has to have emergency automatic braking. Im sure its possible but i cant think of how it would work currently.