F1 2021: Brazilian GP - São Paulo (Nov 14)

Killed by Death · 11-16-2021, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by F87source

Let's just say nonstop biased accusations with no facts get tiresome even if you're in the middle.

Also the faster Merc or ham goes, the louder the nonsense from you guys get. So the more it tempts me to counter these insinuations. Someone has to stand up for the ones getting bullied/accused when it's not rightfully so.

The only reason why my points carry little weight to you guys is because you're too far gone with your hate towards Merc. But don't think for a second I let emotions or bias alter my view on the facts. I've had to do research presentations and defenses (where I either was heavily emotionally invested in the research or topic, or with topics I did not agree with) against people with with PhDs where every fact and talking point is scrutineered, and yet I had to remain neutral or face loosing myself with emotion to the point where I no longer would be able to remain factual and thus disqualified or penalized. I have also taken many supplemental courses in philosophy, logical thinking, and sociology so I know how to think properly. I've worked hard to try and remain, cool, calm, calculated, neutral and composed in everything I do because that helps me with my career in science.

But like I said before, I hold no resentment towards to any of you guys. I just like having debates about F1 because it's better than watching it alone. So if Merc, Honda or any other team does give you a chance to look under the body cover Lemme know lol.

Don't take this as an insult but you sound a little too robotic...Pick a team or driver you like personally. It's so much more fun and engaging.

IMHO, if you were to go the favorite driver route pick a younger guy. That way you can ride the ebbs and flows of an entire career. "Drive to survive" gives a lot of insight into their personalities. Kimi has been my driver his entire career. But, my team is Ferrari. With Kimi leaving next year I've yet to decide on LEC or SAI. I like them both but don't know if I can go hardcore fanboy with either yet.

///M Power-Belgium · 11-16-2021, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by minn19

Hey hey hey, watch the language. This is a family show apparently.

Actually my whole family was in shock by your statements !
For a moment I thought , an exorcist was required in your situation !

But I have to say , currently you sound cured .

"In nomine Patris et Filii et Spiritus Sancti"

///M Power-Belgium · 11-16-2021, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by F87source

I watched the YouTube video on this track by F1, and they said it was the second fastest track on the calendar after Monza, and it has like 20+ corners. Man the drivers are gonna have a great neck work out.

That's outstanding news for MAX , because just by his neck he can break HAM.

///M Power-Belgium · 11-16-2021, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by MJE60

The drs flap on Hamilton’s car was 0.2mm out of spec on one side. This was due either to parts wear or possibly damage. Anyone suggesting Hamilton is a cheat due to this is ignorant of F1 structure and regulations. The team engineers should have picked up the problem but didn’t , either way Hamilton was not responsible. Bigotry or blind hatred towards one driver and unconditional adulation of another dishonours the sport and doesn’t do Max any favours either.

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Originally Posted by dbarton62

Well said.

Right Guys ...

minn19 · 11-16-2021, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Actually my whole family was in shock by your statements !
For a moment I thought , an exorcist was required in your situation !

But I have to say , currently you sound cured .

"In nomine Patris et Filii et Spiritus Sancti"

Wouldn’t work, not very religious.

Then your family has reading comprehension issues as well from being to fantastical of fans like you.

Top speed · 11-16-2021, 09:26 AM

FIA releases in car footage. Compare Verstappens steering input in the lap where he ran Hamilton off the track to his other laps in the same corner. Different steering input? Did he try to run Lewis off the track? You decide.

///M Power-Belgium · 11-16-2021, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by minn19

Wouldn’t work, not very religious.

Then your family has reading comprehension issues as well from being to fantastical of fans like you.

I believe only in what my 'eyes can see .
And they never lied to me..

Killed by Death · 11-16-2021, 09:42 AM

For 50K maybe Max should have pulled on the steering wheel

rcracin · 11-16-2021, 09:48 AM

Max was never gonna make that corner being on the inside line. Even if he turned the wheel more, he would’ve understeered off the track.

He went in too hot because he didn’t want to be passed. I understand racers not wanting to give an inch but it was sloppy driving especially after weaving all over the straight like a child.

minn19 · 11-16-2021, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

I believe only in what my 'eyes can see .
And they never lied to me..

Also explains a lot.

///M Power-Belgium · 11-16-2021, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Killed by Death

For 50K maybe Max should have pulled on the steering wheel

Exactly . Regarding the DRS incident , I heard that HAM's car was totaled just by touching it !

BTW : This one is for you :
'Ferrari nailed the fastest pitstop 'award in Brazil .
Are you kidding me ?

No I'm not .Actually , It was a great job !

#Charlie

3798j · 11-16-2021, 10:20 AM

At the very least Max should receive a reprimand...either that, or going forward, F1 drivers can follow his "technique" of how to defend the overtake...don't slow going in, then force your opponent off. Confirmation he has no class as a race car driver.

///M Power-Belgium · 11-16-2021, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by minn19

Also explains a lot.

I had a dog , it was a black 'Riesenschnauzer and Dina was her name ..

She told me everything , without saying a single word .

M5Rick · 11-16-2021, 10:36 AM

[QUOTE=3798j;28258913]At the very least Max should receive a reprimand...either that, or going forward, F1 drivers can follow his "technique" of how to defend the overtake...don't slow going in, then force your opponent off. Confirmation he has no class as a race car driver.

There was no contact and it's a kid nicking a flower compared with the crime ham committed at Silverstone and only got a slap on the wrist.

Killed by Death · 11-16-2021, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

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Originally Posted by Killed by Death

For 50K maybe Max should have pulled on the steering wheel

Exactly . Regarding the DRS incident , I heard that HAM's car was totaled just by touching it !

BTW : This one is for you :
'Ferrari nailed the fastest pitstop 'award in Brazil .
Are you kidding me ?

No I'm not .Actually , It was a great job !

#Charlie

LEC was wanting to get away from Binotto ASAP

minn19 · 11-16-2021, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

I had a dog , it was a black 'Riesenschnauzer and Dina was her name ..

She told me everything , without saying a single word .

Ok

I have a German Shepherd named Kira and she can't stand Red Bull either. Unspoken of course as well........

Top speed · 11-16-2021, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Exactly . Regarding the DRS incident , I heard that HAM's car was totaled just by touching it !

BTW : This one is for you :
'Ferrari nailed the fastest pitstop 'award in Brazil .
Are you kidding me ?

No I'm not .Actually , It was a great job !

#Charlie

"Regarding the DRS incident , I heard that HAM's car was totaled just by touching it ! "

You heard? Can't be true because you only believe what your eyes can see, and you didn't see it.

///M Power-Belgium · 11-16-2021, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Top speed

FIA releases in car footage. Compare Verstappens steering input in the lap where he ran Hamilton off the track to his other laps in the same corner. Different steering input? Did he try to run Lewis off the track? You decide.

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Originally Posted by rcracin

Max was never gonna make that corner being on the inside line. Even if he turned the wheel more, he would’ve understeered off the track.

He went in too hot because he didn’t want to be passed. I understand racers not wanting to give an inch but it was sloppy driving especially after weaving all over the straight like a child.

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Originally Posted by 3798j

At the very least Max should receive a reprimand...either that, or going forward, F1 drivers can follow his "technique" of how to defend the overtake...don't slow going in, then force your opponent off. Confirmation he has no class as a race car driver.

You guys should open your eyes first and then speak afterwards ...

What can you guys see in the red circle ?

For a split 0.1 sec. HAM's front wing scuffed MAX's side-skirt .

And where's MAX steering wheel pointing at ?
MAX pulled his steering wheel almost completely to the left to make it in the turn .

But he didn't made it ,by lack of grip because his tyres were completely overheated .

At that speed ,HAM's move wasn't possible there on the outside 'in the turn .
IMHO. For sure it was an incident , but seen from MAX's side it looks completely otherwise .

///M Power-Belgium · 11-16-2021, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Killed by Death

LEC was wanting to get away from Binotto ASAP

I would do the same ...

rcracin · 11-16-2021, 11:19 AM

You just said it. Max wasn’t making the corner.

Ham on the outside was definitely going to make that corner with having the front grip.

I’m not saying Max should have been penalized because penalties over dumb shit has gotten annoying.

Steeler · 11-16-2021, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by minn19

Ok

I have a German Shepherd named Kira and she can't stand Red Bull either. Unspoken of course as well........

Sounds, or more correctly looks like the eyes have it

M5Rick · 11-16-2021, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

You guys should open your eyes first and then speak afterwards ...

What can you guys see in the red circle ?

For a split 0.1 sec. HAM's front wing scuffed MAX's side-skirt .

And where's MAX steering wheel pointing at ?
MAX pulled his steering wheel almost completely to the left to make it in the turn .

But he didn't made it ,by lack of grip because his tyres were completely overheated .

At that speed ,HAM's move wasn't possible there on the outside 'in the turn .
IMHO. For sure it was an incident , but seen from MAX's side it looks completely otherwise .

Ah I was waiting to see that steering input from Max at the critical moment,as usual you are the first my friend to come up with the goods

It can be seen that Max is steering away from Ham while Ham is steering into him.

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Top speed Private 81 Rep 82 Posts Drives: AMG gts. McLaren.Porsche Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: South Africa iTrader: (0)	FIA releases in car footage. Compare Verstappens steering input in the lap where he ran Hamilton off the track to his other laps in the same corner. Different steering input? Did he try to run Lewis off the track? You decide.
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11-16-2021, 09:48 AM	#515
rcracin Major 1257 Rep 1,298 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: NYC iTrader: (4)	Max was never gonna make that corner being on the inside line. Even if he turned the wheel more, he would’ve understeered off the track. He went in too hot because he didn’t want to be passed. I understand racers not wanting to give an inch but it was sloppy driving especially after weaving all over the straight like a child.
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3798j Fleet Mechanic 15372 Rep 2,263 Posts Drives: E86 3.0si Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Susquehanna Valley iTrader: (0) Garage List '64 Corvette [10.00] '68 Triumph GT6 [9.50] '19 VW Golf R [10.00] '55 Ford F100 [0.00] '08 Z4 3.0SI [8.50] '66 Triumph TR4A [0.00] '85 Corvette [0.00]	At the very least Max should receive a reprimand...either that, or going forward, F1 drivers can follow his "technique" of how to defend the overtake...don't slow going in, then force your opponent off. Confirmation he has no class as a race car driver.
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M5Rick General 79710 Rep 24,812 Posts Drives: M5 F10 DCT Gunmetal Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: GB iTrader: (0)	[QUOTE=3798j;28258913]At the very least Max should receive a reprimand...either that, or going forward, F1 drivers can follow his "technique" of how to defend the overtake...don't slow going in, then force your opponent off. Confirmation he has no class as a race car driver. There was no contact and it's a kid nicking a flower compared with the crime ham committed at Silverstone and only got a slap on the wrist.
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rcracin Major 1257 Rep 1,298 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: NYC iTrader: (4)	You just said it. Max wasn’t making the corner. Ham on the outside was definitely going to make that corner with having the front grip. I’m not saying Max should have been penalized because penalties over dumb shit has gotten annoying.
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