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Suckers?
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Topcarbon wroteA picture says a thousand words!XPEL stealth here from day one
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NikMN
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Westside Guy wroteUnfortunately it doesA picture says a thousand words!
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Topcarbon
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NikMN wroteprotecting the finish with Ppf is essential where I live. lots of pebbles on the road so kicking them up does nothing to the paint. plus this matte paint sucks for longevity of durability. the cost is definitely worth it(to me)compared to looking at imperfections or rock chips.Unfortunately it does
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chicagofan00 wroteI got Xpel for PPF and ceramic tint, then Feynlab for ceramic from AZ Auto Aesthetics.
Paid just under $5k for PPF on front bumper, front fenders, full hood, full roof, a pillars, and on the CF side blades, full ceramic on the exterior & interior, and 20% all around with 70% on the windshield for tint.
vadapaavoo wroteHey fellas,I got Xpel for PPF and ceramic tint, then Feynlab for ceramic from AZ Auto Aesthetics.
What has been your experience with Feynlab? I've gotten a Modesta coating in the past and loved it but getting a quote from a new shop recommended by a few good friends of mine and they use Feynlab.
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evanseric21 wroteFeynlab seemed to hold up well for the two years I had it on the M3.Hey fellas,
What has been your experience with Feynlab? I've gotten a Modesta coating in the past and loved it but getting a quote from a new shop recommended by a few good friends of mine and they use Feynlab.
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chicagofan00 wroteDo you have any experience with Modesta? If so how would you say it compares? Does the Feynlab coating give that high gloss almost wet look? That's what I loved about the Modesta coating.Feynlab seemed to hold up well for the two years I had it on the M3.
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chicagofan00
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evanseric21 wroteHaven’t heard of Modesta before.Do you have any experience with Modesta? If so how would you say it compares? Does the Feynlab coating give that high gloss almost yet look? That's what I loved about the Modesta coating.
Yeah, the Feynlab always looked great when clean. Problem with AZ is that vehicles get dusty quickly so the wet look doesn’t last too long even if overall the car is still clean and just dusty.
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General consensus seems to be XPEL is the top dawg? No one uses Kavaca?
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John in VA
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One of the premier detailing shops in our area uses Kavaca window tint but Llumar PPF.
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Ceramic coating over PPF? Why??? I swear some folks are just born to get taken advantage of.
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BMWRacer523 wroteI agree, if it isn’t too late and the work has already been done the OP should definitely do the rocker panels which many people ignore when just doing the front of their cars.Sounds about right. Do the rockers too.
Also he shouldn’t ignore the A pillars and side mirror covers. Finally put Xpel Ultimate Plus PPF on the headlights.
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Westside Guy
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P1 wroteUnless you purchase a PPF that is also hydroponic many of us want ceramic coating over our PPF.Ceramic coating over PPF? Why??? I swear some folks are just born to get taken advantage of.

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Westside Guy wroteI still don't get it. Just spray some quick detailer on there after you wash your car. Why the need for ceramic coating?Unless you purchase a PPF that is also hydroponic many of us want ceramic coating over our PPF.
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Westside Guy
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P1 wroteIf you care for it properly the coating will last a very long time. 😉I still don't get it. Just spray some quick detailer on there after you wash your car. Why the need for ceramic coating?
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Westside Guy wroteI use Optimum Spray Wax over my Xpel PPF.Unless you purchase a PPF that is also hydroponic many of us want ceramic coating over our PPF.
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Westside Guy wroteCompletely agree. I don’t want to have to do spray wax after every single wash. Been there done that and ceramic coating on top of ppf is the way to go.If you care for it properly the coating will last a very long time. 😉
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Rcasa20
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And to answer the thread question, personally I don’t care about brand, installer is what matters the most!
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John in VA
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Westside Guy wroteI guess the vegetation helps deflect any rock chips!Unless you purchase a PPF that is also hydroponic many of us want ceramic coating over our PPF.

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John in VA wroteHell yeah, with enough of that hydroponic vegetation. You wont be able to figure out how to start this thing and drive it = The best paint protection.I guess the vegetation helps deflect any rock chips!
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Forzanerazzurri
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P1 wroteIt's because everyone gets suckered into XPEL. Every other PPF has ceramic coating infused in it.Ceramic coating over PPF? Why??? I swear some folks are just born to get taken advantage of.
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Forzanerazzurri wroteThat statement is not correct and I am not a sucker.It's because everyone gets suckered into XPEL. Every other PPF has ceramic coating infused in it.
I shopped around and the local shops that sold brands like STEK, Ceramic Pro, etc. which incorporated hydroponic qualities in their PPF gave me similar quotes to Xpel’s Ultimate Fusion. It was pretty much apples to apples and I went with the shop that I felt would do the best work.