[Marcoose]

Originally Posted by G30M

i don't need to be paid to have Ferraris in my garage, but he gets paid to have Ferraris in his garage!

If you win 7 championships and 105 GPs, I guarantee Ferrari will phone you.

[NickyC]

Sainz to Williams. Tough pill for him to swallow I have to imagine.

[TheBingoBalls]

Originally Posted by NickyC

Sainz to Williams. Tough pill for him to swallow I have to imagine.

I mean, sort of his fault, no? He turned down Ferrari’s initial offer and if we were to some what believe the rumours, he was asking a bit too much from the other interested teams. Besides, from what we know now, looks like it would’ve been a very short stint at the other teams with younger drivers on the come up.

[G30M]

Originally Posted by Artemis

The 'picking up rubber' by all teams has always been a questionable way to outsmart the strict weight rules: adding weight after having passed the chequered flag - that's not how the car was when it passed the chequered flag. The Spa rule of no victory lap (because it's a 7km circuit) illustrated this. Teams would vote against implementing the Spa rule for all races because the victory lap also matters for sponsors.

some rules are stupid but this rule is as stupid as stupid gets

maybe they should just weigh the car without fuel and wheels/tires before the race, maybe after qualifying ...

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by G30M

some rules are stupid but this rule is as stupid as stupid gets

maybe they should just weigh the car without fuel and wheels/tires before the race, maybe after qualifying ...

19 other teams got it right

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Yeah . In other words : The Mexican KitKat money arrived just in time (again)! to save Checo's A$$ after the summer break.

But I really wonder who paid for Checo's $3.5 Million crash damage (so far) ?

As far as I know , the Red Bull Team got in 2023 for the constructors world title $185 Million (!)
I'm pretty sure ,that's a lot of Mexican KitKats my friend.

The Red Bull Team will lose the constructors title because Checo drives like a Fking idiot.

I doesn't make sense and I just don't get it ...

Originally Posted by Rono63

CH has made a lot of McLaren fans happy 😃

Exactly . I couldn't agree more

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by TheBingoBalls

You do know that HAM is playing with house money? The only way HAM “fails” as you put it, is if Mercedes wins either or both drivers or constructors titles after he’s gone. Worse case, it would be a parallel move. Everything else, HAM just further solidifying his career and stat padding for F1 history books at Ferrari - there’s literally nothing left for HAM to prove.

Everyone trying to turn this transfer into a negative like Mercedes is still this unbeatable powerhouse that he’s leaving.

The 2025 #1 Ferrari driver is no joke to drive with (!)

[HeelToeShift]

Originally Posted by NickyC

Sainz to Williams. Tough pill for him to swallow I have to imagine.

He only has himself to blame. His opportunity to sign with a top team peaked after the Australian GP, but he wanted to hold out looking for top seat opportunities. Subsequent to all of this his results started to drop back to normal and he hasnt really had a great race since. The continued waiting only left fewer and fewer seats. It will be interesting to see two solid ex RBR, ex Max teammates at Williams.

[andrewmr]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

19 other teams got it right

Well.... at least nine of them did....

[blackcarbon]

Originally Posted by NickyC

Sainz to Williams. Tough pill for him to swallow I have to imagine.

Interesting that he turned down Audi though. It does sound like a vote of no confidence in Audi’s project.

[AmuroRay]

Originally Posted by HeelToeShift

Ham has also raced for 10 years longer than Max - I'd hope his number were better especially when 8 of those years he had the single fastest car F1 has ever seen (any decent driver from ANY series would have done what he did and in a case like Max, he would have done better) and in all but 1 of the other seasons, he had either the best or second best car. The stats prove that aside from the cheating scandal with Renault, and his years with MB, when there was actually competition and parity in the sport, he has struggled mightily to win. In those roughly 170 races he has only 15 wins across 9 seasons. Max has more wins from 2016-2021 and never had the best car in any of those seasons - roughly, on average, the 3rd best . At the same point in both careers, Max's numbers are better. And he has not had nearly the dominant level car which tells you quite a bit.

He had the best car in 2021 - in fact, remove that from measure and recalculate those numbers again.

[AmuroRay]

Redbull still has the fastest car - and Max hasn't won in 4 races.

[lens]

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

Redbull still has the fastest car - and Max hasn't won in 4 races.

The Mclaren is the fastest car.


They have the best tire deg, which translates to better race pace.


The issue is their strategy department, and Lando.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

Redbull still has the fastest car - and Max hasn't won in 4 races.

Mercedes won 3 from the last 4 races .

Mate . That's a 75% win rate (!)

[NickyC]

If Max isn’t winning, RB doesn’t have the fastest car. He’s the best, and the massive time differences between him and Checo prove that.

[AmuroRay]

Originally Posted by NickyC

If Max isn’t winning, RB doesn’t have the fastest car. He’s the best, and the massive time differences between him and Checo prove that.

Max has the fastest car, but he's not winning. But Checo is a reliable baseline to make that distinction that it's "The Max factor"

My guy has gotten beat by the slower cars 3 times in a row.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

Max has the fastest car, but he's not winning. But Checo is a reliable baseline to make that distinction that it's "The Max factor"

My guy has gotten beat by the slower cars 3 times in a row.

You mean Lando Norris ?

[AmuroRay]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

You mean Lando Norris ?

No argument about Lando, he was second to Sainz until he got a faster car. But Back to Max, what's his excuse?

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

No argument about Lando, he was second to Sainz until he got a faster car. But Back to Max, what's his excuse?

MAX the latest :

For 4 weeks I won't think about F1 , while I drink Gin-Tonic on the beach.

[AmuroRay]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

MAX the latest :

For 4 weeks I won't think about F1 , while I drink Gin-Tonic on the beach.

Fair enough, enjoy the summer!

[Autobacs]

I see that the Max vs Hamilton debate has not ended.

One thing I will say for sure, Max vs Russell is not going to be as close as Hamilton vs Russell in the same car IMO.

[Needsdecaf]

Originally Posted by Marcoose

7 championships, arguably 8, most wins, most poles, and some are still arguing Hamilton is only good when all stars align. Go figure. He beat Alonso on his maiden season. Alonso !

Arguably 9. Only reason he didn't win his rookie year was getting stuck in the gravel in the pit lane at China.

Then again, it could be said he stole the victory away from Massa the next year, which would have put him back at 8 if we say that Massa really should have won and Lewis got lucky. Either way he has 7 and was a whisker away from 9. Pretty damn impressive. And his championships have been with two different teams.