http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2008/12/14/2008-12-14_governor_paterson_proposes_obesity_tax_a-1.html

I guess no more diet coke for me

Wait a minute. It's called an "Obesity Tax", yet anyone who buys a non-diet drink would have to pay more, regardless if they are obese? I don't see how this tax bill gets passed.

fart tax

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23505683/

Talk about COMPLETE ignorance of facts. Diet soda contains chemical sweeteners (splenda/sucralose, aspartame) that flat out should not be ingested by humans. Diet soda makes you fatter than regular soda. If you need a sweeteners use stevia, a natural herb with no affect on blood sugar.

How about we educate people about eating a real diet and have food companies actually list exactly what they are putting in foods.

Bobby_Light wrote

Talk about COMPLETE ignorance of facts. Diet soda contains chemical sweeteners (splenda/sucralose, aspartame) that flat out should not be ingested by humans. Diet soda makes you fatter than regular soda. If you need a sweeteners use stevia, a natural herb with no affect on blood sugar.

How about we educate people about eating a real diet and have food companies actually list exactly what they are putting in foods.

+1...And don't forget that there is shit in diet drinks that promotes cancer. The chemical starts with an 'a' can't remember it though.

I didn't read the link. but yes they should tax fatties, lol.

DougLikesBMW wrote

+1...And don't forget that there is shit in diet drinks that promotes cancer. The chemical starts with an 'a' can't remember it though.

I didn't read the link. but yes they should tax fatties, lol.

Aspartame

That's bullshit. I hate the synthetic sugars they add to Diet Coke, there have even been links to cancer with that shit.

Just because it has more calories doesn't mean fat people drink it. It's actually the other way around. Most fat people drink diet because they want to get skinnier.

I haven't drank soda since I was about 15 so this doesn't affect me, but the reasoning behind this tax is extremely retarded. I also think that the argument of which is more unhealthy, regular vs diet soda, is also retarded. Trying to make the argument between artificial sweeteners that may lead to cancer (I think most tests were done on lab rats where a human would have to ingest ridiculous amounts of artificial sweeteners to equal that level in humans) versus regular soda with 40g of sugar per can that will overtime help contribute to insulin resistance and/or diabetes is like arguing which poison is more healthy.

How about we just tax your fat ass if your BF% is over a certain percentage when you go for health insurance, and you will be charged a premium just as if you were a smoker since you will undoubtedly contribute to much higher costs.

I thought this was going to be about obese people paying some taxes...for being obese...

I wish they would refuse to feed HUGE people at fast food joints. If they can cut you off for being too drunk, they should cut you off for eating too much (crap).

We have a really backward health care system in this country. It's atrocious.

This was what I was trying to say, but more in depth:p.

I worked at McDonald's a while back for a short stint and the thing I loved most was when fatties would come by and order Supersized whatevertheheck and then ask me for a diet drink at the window. People are just so unbelievable.

BoostedBMW wrote

I haven't drank soda since I was about 15 so this doesn't affect me, but the reasoning behind this tax is extremely retarded. I also think that the argument of which is more unhealthy, regular vs diet soda, is also retarded. Trying to make the argument between artificial sweeteners that may lead to cancer (I think most tests were done on lab rats where a human would have to ingest ridiculous amounts of artificial sweeteners to equal that level in humans) versus regular soda with 40g of sugar per can that will overtime help contribute to insulin resistance and/or diabetes is like arguing which poison is more healthy.

How about we just tax your fat ass if your BF% is over a certain percentage when you go for health insurance, and you will be charged a premium just as if you were a smoker since you will undoubtedly contribute to much higher costs.

who is going to decide which people are overweight?

Way too complicated, never gonna happen

andyffer wrote

who is going to decide which people are overweight?

Way too complicated, never gonna happen

Hmm, let's see....BMI, ever heard of it? Body Mass Index?

DougLikesBMW wrote

Hmm, let's see....BMI, ever heard of it? Body Mass Index?

So they are going to test everyone's BMI?
Then set a bar for that?

andyffer wrote

So they are going to test everyone's BMI?
Then set a bar for that?

There are already indexes of what a healthy BMI is for height/age.

DougLikesBMW wrote

There are already indexes of what a healthy BMI is for height/age.

So they have a bar set..

Then "everyone come get you BMI measured"
and if they choose not to? death?

hey I hate obesity too, but I think this tax is silly.
maybe we should just make car seats and airplane seats smaller.
Just kidding. But things like making them pay for 2 seats = perfect

andyffer wrote

So they have a bar set..

Then "everyone come get you BMI measured"
and if they choose not to? death?

hey I hate obesity too, but I think this tax is silly.
maybe we should just make car seats and airplane seats smaller.
Just kidding. But things like making them pay for 2 seats = perfect

Haha, that reminds me of this time Jay Leno was joking about fatties having to pay for 2 seats, he was acting as a fatty in this skit and said, "Hey, that means I get two meals right?" It was hilarious.

To gather data on everyone's BMI is quite simple. Whenever a person goes to the doctor they can easily have thier BMI calculated. It takes like 30 seconds, and then the data could be pooled together.

andyffer wrote

maybe we should just make car seats and airplane seats smaller.

Then you have fat people bitching and complaining about discrimination. Their point is why do I have to pay for 2 seats when a normal weight person doesn't. Well with all due respect, the normal weight person sitting beside you doesn't have his/her 74 pound ass cheek on your lap. Try explaining that to them.

bmstyle71 wrote

Then you have fat people bitching and complaining about discrimination. Their point is why do I have to pay for 2 seats when a normal weight person doesn't. Well with all due respect, the normal weight person sitting beside you doesn't have his/her 74 pound ass cheek on your lap. Try explaining that to them.

yeah exactly.
Its like...

One day on a crowded, busy, filthy, subway train, when they come to a stop and more people come in. In walks these 3 nuns. Obviously they are older ladies and cant stand for the whole subway ride. So this nice young man reading a paper, who is clueless to this whole situation, is tapped on the shoulder by a rather robust, "well rounded" woman, asking "why dont you get up and let one of those nuns sit down? It would be the proper thing to do."
The nice young man responds quickly without even looking up, asking "why don't you get up and let all three of the nuns sit down? It would be the proper thing to do."

^^^

Lol!

DougLikesBMW wrote

Hmm, let's see....BMI, ever heard of it? Body Mass Index?

BMI is garbage. Bob Sanders is obese according to BMI.

jaiman wrote

BMI is garbage. Bob Sanders is obese according to BMI.

You're right. Some times it doesn't work (on folks with lots of muscle), but it does calculate your body fat percentage.