[hb]

Originally Posted by Cortexiphan

This doesn't look like a Tesla experience - at all.

It really doesn't. I think the Panoramic display is the biggest improvement. I talked off the record with a lot of BMW executives, from board to chief designers, and learned more about why they wanted that display.

[LuisBoston]

Originally Posted by 440i6MT

I am Gen Z.
I am not approaching anywhere near the inhumane dreck BMW puts out today.

Please do not cheer on the coming psychological Black Death.

Anecdotes don’t matter in the broader scheme of things.

The future is coming despite the whining.

[Cortexiphan]

Originally Posted by MisanoblueZ4

Is it just me or is there less field of view in those pictures with the panoramic.

Technology has overtaken the act of driving, just scanning screen upon screen of redundant info and not even looking outside.

Based on first hand impressions, it isn't less field of view. The panoramic display sits below the hood line.
hb can confirm this I believe.

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by Cortexiphan

This is perfect ergonomics for driving, as you don't have to take your eyes off the road. And this panoramic display doesn't take away from your view of the road, as it's under it.

Blocks the road for visibility.
Buttons for ergonomics.
This isn’t hard to understand…!

I can’t tell you how aggravating it is to find the recirc button, for example, and for some reason BMW has evolved their HVAC to turn off the recirc multiple times in a 10 mile commute with many diesel trucks and busses. I find the screen distracting but have learned to live with it. The recirc thing makes my blood boil almost on a daily basis. It’s three taps on the screen when it used to literally be on the steering wheel.

[Game]

Originally Posted by Tag

Never thought we'd get to a point where iDrive 8.x is the preferred option.

8.5 is the best system BMW's ever made.

[440i6MT]

Originally Posted by LuisBoston

Anecdotes don’t matter in the broader scheme of things.

The future is coming despite the whining.

I am well aware. It will be a depressing, dark, soulless, lifeless future. The masses do not deserve beauty.

[Salespunk]

Can't wait for my wife to see how fast I am driving at all times!

Seriously though, as a previous owner of a 2006 Civic Hybrid these "gauge" placements suck. For people that don't want to drive it is fine, but in a performance vehicle a big no thank you. I am pissing in the wind, but I miss round physical gauges. I really want to go buy an F10 or E90, but I also don't want to deal with the maintenance.

[TargaM2]

That steering wheel looks like something from a kids toy.
Who designs this crap. Is there nobody left at BMW with taste.

[NorthBuddy]

Originally Posted by DocWeatherington

I'm certain the car will still have some buttons. I think this is an idrive swap. I would still see bmw having buttons ans stalks, some sort of baby shift lever. The idrive control will likely die

It‘s already confirmed, that the car will have physical Buttons für turning lights, wipers etc.
This is just a study and presentation setup. We’ll see, how it look in the new iX3 in Summer.

[matt_cat]

Originally Posted by hufington

Definitely a futuristic look but we'll see how user-friendly and ergonomic these will be. Feels too Tesla-esque and geared more towards the Chinese market and Gen Z customers. The steering wheel is hideous though.

As a gen Z customer, I think it looks horrible. Way too gimmicky, really hope the steering wheel buttons are not capacitive touch. Are they releasing this only on new generations released by the end of 2025, or on all new cars manufactured by the end of 2025?

[Scrapula]

I’m a 68 year old baby boomer and I love the panoramic display. As long as the driver functions are in front of me, then putting things like weather, time, music tracks to the passenger side makes sense. I don’t use the iDrive controller knob because I prefer to touch the screen, probably from using an iPad for 12 years. Right now, this is just a display for CES. The vehicle will have a proper steering wheel. I’m looking forward to it. I bought an iPhone very early, a plasma TV when they first came out. My grandfather was the same getting the first color TV, first remote control TV, etc.

[J-RO]

Originally Posted by LuisBoston

Anecdotes don’t matter in the broader scheme of things.

The future is coming despite the whining.

I guess I will stay in the past. When my leases are up I will be purchasing the cars I have.

[LuisBoston]

Originally Posted by J-RO

I guess I will stay in the past. When my leases are up I will be purchasing the cars I have.

Enjoy them!

[bimmerbenz65]

Isn’t this what Lincoln’s doing in their new vehicles?

I will say I bashed ID8 at first (and after brief experiences in loaner cars), but now having owned my car with it for a year it’s not so bad. That’s not to say that I wouldn’t take back buttons…

Will try to reserve judgement of the functionality, but from the pure visual aspects it is a downgrade. It is one of the things I could never look past in a Tesla, the vast prairie of plastic in front of the driver.

[TheUltimateDrivingManiac]

I like it, boomers.

[yousefnjr]

Every once in a while I get a survey from BMW asking about various things that are important in cars, etc. Interestingly the one that came a few days ago was asking how important I thought buttons in the car were. Certainly let them know my feelings who knows what they’ll ultimately land on but at least they’re thinking about it

Other topics they seem to be chewing on — sunroof vs removable panels, interior quality, EV demand, and PPF from the factory

[hrf]

Ugly, my daughter says why steering wheel is upside down? BMW designers, you are many many “curse words”! I truly hate your entire team with your f**** boss!

[MidnightLight]

Unpopular opinion, but I actually like where they're headed with the Panoramic Vision display. They will probably have to iterate more to figure out what information is most valuable to show, especially on the far passenger end. But it's a promising concept.

Not as keen on the funky shaped screen though. It gives everything a weird off balance feel. But I'll reserve judgment till we actually get our hands on a real production model. Perhaps the supposed ergonomic benefit will indeed justify the shape.

The steering wheel looks like a PlayStation 5 version of the old Nintendo Wii Steering Wheel. Interesting, though I'm not immediately sold.

[carseatsm5]

Originally Posted by jdhiro

I can't say I love it, but it's better than the stupid TV screen awkwardly bolted onto the dashboard today.

Agreed.

[snareman]

Originally Posted by hb

It really doesn't. I think the Panoramic display is the biggest improvement. I talked off the record with a lot of BMW executives, from board to chief designers, and learned more about why they wanted that display.

So, I guess you can't say, but what would be the secret part about why they'd want that display?

[KevinC]

They've completely jumped the shark. F-series and earlier for me, I want none of this video game crap in the car. Especially a BMW that's supposed to be a "driver's car".

[sikotic]

Originally Posted by hrf

Ugly, my daughter says why steering wheel is upside down? BMW designers, you are many many “curse words”! I truly hate your entire team with your f**** boss!

This was the first thought that came to my mind as well.