[neilum]

Originally Posted by XutvJet

Porsche pricing is just dumb. I also don't understand the purpose of cars like this. No one can use it on the street and no one takes these cars to the track. They're just all about flexing wallets at Cars and Coffee and talking about how rare the car is and the owner's special options. These 911s are MASSIVE as well.

A GT3 is fun even at low speeds. It is engaging, full of feel and very sharp. You don't have to beat it to enjoy it. Plus the 991.2s have a ton of torque so they absolutely do not feel slow around town.

On top of that yes it is obviously very fast but you can definitely use it on the street.

My friend's 750 Mclaren on the other hand? Stupid fast my god what a car but its really just so god damn fast. That car is hard to use on the street but a GT3 while is still too fast for the street, it can be done selectively to blast to 130-140 when the road is clear in Mexico

[Alfisti]

I just took the morning off for one last blast before winter storing in a humble 997 C2S cab with all of 385 HP and cannot FATHOM what I do with another 100+ HP.

[neilum]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

I just took the morning off for one last blast before winter storing in a humble 997 C2S cab with all of 385 HP and cannot FATHOM what I do with another 100+ HP.

500+ HP on 3100 lbs is indeed very fast but the way a GT3 drives is what I enjoy the most about it. The car is so precise in everything it does and feels alive.

Speaking of the 25's Porsche is milking every last drop out of the 4.0L motor at this point and I think the car enters a slippery slope approaching $250-275K+. They are clearly not developing the motor anymore as it uses the borrowed FD from the ST, cams from the RS and now has 4 cats! It's a real shame the environmental regulations have this motor bottled up to the point that despite these improvements the 992.2's make the same power as the 991.2's and less torque!



They will sell all of the new ones they make, but I think the 991.2's are the sweet spot as they got the bullet proof motor lifted from the cup cars, classic look, apple car play and a rear camera but still has tactile buttons and some old school feel. It's the sweet spot for me. Or if you have $40K more and want a double wishbone front, the 992.1's are brilliant too and even better on track.

[Alfisti]

Originally Posted by neilum

500+ HP on 3100 lbs is indeed very fast but the way a GT3 drives is what I enjoy the most about it. The car is so precise in everything it does and feels alive.

They are special cars, still NA and light and not too digital. Halo Porsche for me would the 997 4.0 but you'd be too scared to put miles on it.

[BlkGS]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

They are special cars, still NA and light and not too digital. Halo Porsche for me would the 997 4.0 but you'd be too scared to put miles on it.

We looked into doing a 3.8 or 4.0 build on our 996 rebuild. They make higher displacement cases, but we were gonna need heads too, and of course eall.the accessories. Would have cost a small fortune. Way more than the car would ever be worth. If anything, I wish we had done an LS swap in it.

[Alfisti]

Originally Posted by BlkGS

We looked into doing a 3.8 or 4.0 build on our 996 rebuild. They make higher displacement cases, but we were gonna need heads too, and of course eall.the accessories. Would have cost a small fortune. Way more than the car would ever be worth. If anything, I wish we had done an LS swap in it.

It's 30 to 40K USd to build a 40 with about 450hp or so, I wouldn't drop that on a 996 as it is so unloved but a 997 4.0 rebuild will fetch VERY good money.

[Mis4Maybe]

Originally Posted by Schn3ll

I would implore you to drive the c8 Z06. It’s a faster, better sounding, more comfortable for the street, slightly heavier GT3 for $100k less. It may be where my money goes next honestly (non-Z07 convertible - great street car regardless of the styling and what the haters say).

The Z06 is a good choice for sure, 2018 Mercedes AMG GTR would also be a contender, or just an older 2015 GT3, could almost buy 2x 2015 GT3s for the cost of a new 2025 GT3, what a world.

[Alfisti]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

They are special cars, still NA and light and not too digital. Halo Porsche for me would the 997 4.0 but you'd be too scared to put miles on it.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...gt3-rs-4-0-10/

[BlkGS]

That makes me sad. That car never had a chance to live, it's just been parked while a series of people view it as investments.

[Alfisti]

Agree. It is arguably the greatest sportscar ever made. To be clear, not hypercar, just sportscar. The last of the analogue cars but still modernish.

[bosstones]

Wow ... it's like the only time it is driven is once a year for an annual oil change or MX schedule items at a dealer or indy shop. What a waste. Someone buy it for me so I ..er...the car can get some miles in and be fulfilled.

[Donut Lord]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...gt3-rs-4-0-10/

I want it!

[Alfisti]

Donut a heads up you are being flagged as spam for some reason, weird.

[bosstones]

^^^ been noticing that since the Land Cruise/Tacoma thread went extracurricular.

[Donut Lord]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

They are special cars, still NA and light and not too digital. Halo Porsche for me would the 997 4.0 but you'd be too scared to put miles on it.

Nah needs to be driven!

[Alfisti]

Last one sold for $700K

[Donut Lord]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

Last one sold for $700K

Thanks for the info!

[eliphil]

Originally Posted by x622

That's exactly how I'd describe it too! It's numb and vague, even the 3rs. To say it's not brutally fast is obviously a bold faced lie, but it's not "fun" to drive. It's not rewarding to beat the absolute shit out of, because you have to just to feel ANYTHING. The 997.1 and .2 were the last of it's kind, I think. I want to add one of them to my collection but not sure what.

I will say that the the GT4RS somehow feels better than the the GT3. Wish I could get my hands on one with that crazy engine build and shorter gear ratio setup. Bet it's pretty sweet.

All these car manufacturers make me feel sad.
I can't be a modern Porsche enthusiast anymore since I don't enjoy the smell of my own farts.
I can't be a modern BMW enthusiast because everything I've cared about the brand is dead with the exception of the s58.
I can't be a modern Honda enthusiast because they make dumb shit like the CTR that costs as much as a M2 basically, and they're too scared to make another s2000 or NSX that's worth a shit.
I can't be a modern Chevy enthusiast because the Corvette gets worse every generation now, and the ZL1 1LE is dead.
I can't be a modern Ferrari enthusiast because they put v6's in their top end models now (F80) and they make stuff like the 296GTB is a which is a cope-mobile.

Sad times to be a car guy I guess. If I want to go really really fast in a straight line I guess it's great, but if I want to turn and enjoy how the car feels and communicates I'm SOL. Buy all the old cars you can I guess....

I’m not so sure it’s that’s bad but it is the reason I own 2019 z06 w a stick. Between greed and global elitist environmental putz’s it’s slim picking.