Future BMW models information

mkoesel · 07-07-2019, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ynguldyn

Update: first hard data on iX3. The big news here is that I can now confirm a U.S. market model.

We had heard it before, but the confirmation that it will be RWD-only is nevertheless very disheartening. It’s going to get left in the dust by every other luxury electric SUV on the market. Not only is AWD an expected feature on anything but the lowest end model in a luxury SUV lineup, but when it comes to electric drive, it provides a huge boost in power.

I’m sure they will be able to upgrade it to AWD eventually, borrowing development from the i4. But to be this late to the game and come to market missing such an important feature represents a major misstep IMHO.

///M TOWN · 07-07-2019, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by mkoesel

We had heard it before, but the confirmation that it will be RWD-only is nevertheless very disheartening. It's going to get left in the dust by every other luxury electric SUV on the market. Not only is AWD an expected feature on anything but the lowest end model in a luxury SUV lineup, but when it comes to electric drive, it provides a huge boost in power.

I'm sure they will be able to upgrade it to AWD eventually, borrowing development from the i4. But to be this late to the game and come to market missing such an important feature represents a major misstep IMHO.

It's a not just a major mistake but a deal killer.

We will replace our current EV with an Electric SUV.

I guess it will be a Tesla Model Y if BMW isn't going to compete.

ynguldyn · 07-07-2019, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mkoesel

We had heard it before, but the confirmation that it will be RWD-only is nevertheless very disheartening. It’s going to get left in the dust by every other luxury electric SUV on the market. Not only is AWD an expected feature on anything but the lowest end model in a luxury SUV lineup, but when it comes to electric drive, it provides a huge boost in power.

I’m sure they will be able to upgrade it to AWD eventually, borrowing development from the i4. But to be this late to the game and come to market missing such an important feature represents a major misstep IMHO.

On the other hand, this bodes well for the i4. If it gets the same motor on the rear axle, the dual-motor versions could easily hit Model 3 Performance numbers.

But it does feel like BMW is a little late to the party. Though I'm hopeful that with Krüger out EV development will be accelerated.

RPM33 · 07-08-2019, 11:40 AM

Any news on a CSL model? M4 CSL? M2 CSL?

Beefcake · 07-09-2019, 05:02 AM

Will the 545e only be the G30 or also the G31 (touring) in Europe?

EvoFire · 07-09-2019, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ynguldyn

Update: first hard data on iX3. The big news here is that I can now confirm a U.S. market model.

Are there any China made models in the Canada or US? Seems like a big leap on such an important model.

Any reason why it will be on the G08? Packaging issues with the batteries? Actually honestly would like a G08 in US. The X3 is workable with a big infant seat, but the G08 would be much better to live with, without going to a X5.

mbanck · 07-09-2019, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by EvoFire

Any reason why it will be on the G08? Packaging issues with the batteries?

I would guess so, it seems to be the same with the I4 which is said to be using the LWB version of the G2x.

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Actually honestly would like a G08 in US. The X3 is workable with a big infant seat, but the G08 would be much better to live with, without going to a X5.

Probably the IX3 base price will be high enough that BMW management thought it won't cannibalize the X5 all that much compared to a regular LWB X3...

ted99 · 07-09-2019, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ynguldyn

Update: first hard data on iX3. The big news here is that I can now confirm a U.S. market model.

Still planned for China production? I would guess that if Trump's 25% tariffs come in, it will be a "no go" and reassigning to Spartanburg "too hard" for 2020.

V-Eight · 07-10-2019, 10:28 AM

What does "BMW iconic sound" means???????? What kind of optional is it? Another fake sound from outside speakers????? :-D

mbanck · 07-10-2019, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by V-Eight

What does "BMW iconic sound" means???????? What kind of optional is it? Another fake sound from outside speakers????? :-D

I think there's EU regulations coming up that BEVs need to have some kinda sound to warn pedestrians in cities.

I read that BMW teamed up with some well-known composer to create sounds for that, so this might be it.

Almaretto · 07-10-2019, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by V-Eight

What does "BMW iconic sound" means???????? What kind of optional is it? Another fake sound from outside speakers????? :-D

https://www.bmwgroup.com/en/NEXTGen/iconic_sounds.html

Mavallone · 07-12-2019, 04:58 PM

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Can you clarify for me when the EOP for US M2 Competition will be? Will they be produced concurrently with the CS model in 2021?

CS production will have no effect on M2 Comp lifecycle. The EOP is in the top post.

Thanks for the info!

Ilyam5 · 07-17-2019, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ynguldyn

Regular X3/X4 will get them in a couple of months.

Any news on the engine update for x3 m40. Is it getting m340 engine with 382hp. Is the sop still september like it says in ordering guide for 2020 x3 m40?

ynguldyn · 07-17-2019, 09:57 PM

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Any news on the engine update for x3 m40. Is it getting m340 engine with 382hp. Is the sop still september like it says in ordering guide for 2020 x3 m40?

September or maybe even August. Since Spartanburg vehicles take just days for transport, by October you'll see them in all dealerships.

ynguldyn · 07-18-2019, 02:22 AM

Added production end dates for G16, G21, and G06.

ynguldyn · 07-18-2019, 03:33 PM

And I'm taking the "no manuals" position for G8x and all G22 based on the limited and inconclusive info I have right now.

mkoesel · 07-18-2019, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ynguldyn

And I'm taking the "no manuals" position for G8x and all G22 based on the limited and inconclusive info I have right now.

Thats a bummer. I suppose there’s still the chance though.

Assuming you end up being correct, the G42 and G87 would then become the last hope for those who want a new BMW performance vehicle with a manual transmission. But, will they bother mating the B48 O1, B58, and/or S58 to an MT for a single application? It certainly seems less likely.

brad850csi · 07-18-2019, 11:59 PM

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Thats a bummer. I suppose there’s still the chance though.

Assuming you end up being correct, the G42 and G87 would then become the last hope for those who want a new BMW performance vehicle with a manual transmission. But, will they bother mating the B48 O1, B58, and/or S58 to an MT for a single application? It certainly seems less likely.

You'd think G87 6MT would be the most likely as it would have the highest take up rate.

V-Eight · 07-20-2019, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Almaretto

https://www.bmwgroup.com/en/NEXTGen/iconic_sounds.html

It's a shit....nothing more. Don't like this new BMW future at all. It seems they were inspired directly from "demolition Man" movie..... I'm totally disgusted.

skygypsy · 07-20-2019, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Ilyam5

Any news on the engine update for x3 m40. Is it getting m340 engine with 382hp. Is the sop still september like it says in ordering guide for 2020 x3 m40?

+1 Any news on the engine update for x3 m40. Is it getting m340 engine with 382hp.

Weiman · 07-21-2019, 11:40 AM

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It's a shit....nothing more. Don't like this new BMW future at all. It seems they were inspired directly from "demolition Man" movie..... I'm totally disgusted.

It's not "a shit". It is "the law".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electr...ds#Regulations

evanescent03 · 07-21-2019, 08:52 PM

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And I'm taking the "no manuals" position for G8x and all G22 based on the limited and inconclusive info I have right now.

This is my 9/11

then you're pretty screwed if something actually bad ever happens in your life ....

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