[See5]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

It looks terrible, just nothing works on it imho and Dark Horse prices here are 6 figures.

I think it looks great. Better than the S550 refresh IMO.

[Alfisti]

Originally Posted by BlkGS

The S650 just doesn't really look better than the S550, and didn't really improve it any. It'sore like a refresh than a new generation.

It's a worse car in almost every respect. The PP is worse, the steering is still a sore point, it looks worse .... no idea why you'd get one over a gently used S550.

[Alfisti]

Originally Posted by See5

I think it looks great. Better than the S550 refresh IMO.

The front is awkward and the rear is just wrong, kind of looks like a camaro rear end, it's lost all of the flow in the design.

[Brandoch]

E92 M3 manual

[baege]

Originally Posted by spazzyfry123

Would a Lotus Emira be in budget? It would seem so if it is to replace the R8 unless freeing up cash is a part of the equation.

No turbo lag with it being supercharged, three pedals, exotic presence...

I have seriously considered the Emira, but not a huge fan of the supercharger whine and the reliability aspect has me hesitating

I drove an evora back in the day and it didnt stir me like a 981S did

but perhaps I should drive an Emira, definitely will offer a fresh experience

[baege]

Originally Posted by G30M

replacing an R8 with an M2? oh dear. and here I am wishing for an R8. it's about what you don't have eh ...

I'd get a Mustang Dark Horse TREMEC 6MT

hedonic adaptation is a bitch

no matter how good what you have is, you get used to it

and I miss manual

[baege]

Originally Posted by mjj

I will throw one out here that I don’t believe has been mentioned…

Z4 M40i with a manual. Great engine, good sound plus a drop top when desired.

Smaller, tossable, lighter weight than an M2. Good size trunk for a convertible.

I drive my Z4 M40i more than my 25 M4c

not a vert guy

[baege]

Originally Posted by Ohio Enthusiast

How about the Supra, then? It's supposedly tuned to be more sporty than the Z4, and can be had with a manual with the B58 as well.



Don't get your hopes up. It's touted in the media as if it's a concrete plan, but in truth it's just a throwaway line mentioned in an earnings call. Lotus doesn't really have the budget to develop an engine for a low production car like the Emira, and they painted themselves into a corner with the EV only move. Plus, Lotus has a long history of overpromising and underdelivering...

thought about the supra, but not a huge fan of the looks and also S58 over B58 any day so M2 *over supra for me

[dumptruck]

How old are you?

[baege]

Originally Posted by dumptruck

How old are you?

not too old for a manual!

[x622]

Originally Posted by jeff113

But the recently released JB4 can add almost 100HP to the V6.

Go drive both. It's the worse powertrain in the two. The manual is just -ehh, and it blows up.