[brad850csi]

Originally Posted by sward

Right.

Scania S 450 or MB S 450?

An obvious cross-shop and potential for confusion

[ynguldyn]

i7 renamings, M3 CS shows up, i4 power is known.

[MPSdriver]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

i7 renamings, M3 CS shows up, i4 power is known.

i4 eDrive40 power rating is kind of disappointing... really curious to see pricing.

[brainDotExe]

Originally Posted by MPSdriver

i4 eDrive40 power rating is kind of disappointing... really curious to see pricing.

Since BMW says the top model (M50) will provide 530 PS / 523 hp the numbers here (470 hp for M50) could be the base power without "boost".
Maybe eDrive40 also has a "boost" mode.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

May 2021

• M3 CS is in the plans.

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

M3 CS shows up

As start of production of the G80 M3 LCI (facelift) and the G82 M4 CSL is scheduled for July 2022 (coinciding with the BMW M '50 Jahre' events), I guess that we may reasonably assume that SOP of the G80 M3 CS will not precede SOP of those two cars.

[BMthusiast]

Originally Posted by Artemis

As start of production of the G80 M3 LCI (facelift) and the G82 M4 CSL is scheduled for July 2022 (coinciding with the BMW M '50 Jahre' events)

Hold the phone.... So will the G80 we see today will be a one-off like we saw with the one year change from 2015 F80 to 2016-2018 F80? And the G82/83 will keep the same aesthetics as current while G80 has introduced its LCI?

Depending on how drastically the LCI changes G80, the current version might end up becoming a real rarity down the line.

[Fugly M3]

Originally Posted by Kuato2084

Hold the phone.... So will the G80 we see today will be a one-off like we saw with the one year change from 2015 F80 to 2016-2018 F80? And the G82/83 will keep the same aesthetics as current while G80 has introduced its LCI?

Depending on how drastically the LCI changes G80, the current version might end up becoming a real rarity down the line.

I've been thinking about that as well. The fugly one year gem later on!

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by Kuato2084

Hold the phone.... So will the G80 we see today will be a one-off like we saw with the one year change from 2015 F80 to 2016-2018 F80? And the G82/83 will keep the same aesthetics as current while G80 has introduced its LCI?

Depending on how drastically the LCI changes G80, the current version might end up becoming a real rarity down the line.

Great questions. Please see these threads for more discussion:

https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1781529
https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1808330

[Chrisss_GER]

I thought the i4 M50 will have 530hp as it was officially announced and not 470hp?
Or will there be an i4 M with 530 hp?

Maybe you can clarify that

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

i7 renamings, M3 CS shows up, i4 power is known.

So, for those keeping score:

iX xDrive40 320hp
iX xDrive50 515hp
iX M60 560hp

i4 eDrive35 300hp
i4 eDrive40 335hp
i4 M50 470hp

I suspect we'll soon learn that the numeric value in the name is a reflection of battery capacity only. In other words, I don't think there is any attempt here to correlate the badge to power output like there is with the gasoline and diesel lineups. For example, a future i4 xDrive40 will not make 320hp like the iX xDrive40 does. I say this not least because that would nonsensically put its output below the RWD eDrive40 model's output. Furthermore, an iX M50 (which probably won't exist, but theoretically could) would obviously not have only 470hp like the i4 M50 model does. This is because, again, that would nonsensically place it below the non-M xDrive50 model in the lineup.

TL;DR: when it comes to BMW EVs, don't try to guess motor output based on the badge.

Originally Posted by Chrisss_GER

I thought the i4 M50 will have 530hp as it was officially announced and not 470hp?
Or will there be an i4 M with 530 hp?

I was wondering that as well. As you suggest, that may be another model coming later. However, a mere 12% bump in power for the flagship M model over its lesser sibling would be a bit of an uncharacteristic move. Perhaps they intend to deliver even more power for said flagship? They could use the 560hp setup from the iX M60, for example. Though, it's not clear if the i4 will support the "60" battery which is probably paired with the higher output motors in order to yield a more reasonable EPA range.

[Frosty]

..Is there any chance of an electric Coupe in the BMW lineup?

[Encanto]

Originally Posted by Kuato2084

Hold the phone.... So will the G80 we see today will be a one-off like we saw with the one year change from 2015 F80 to 2016-2018 F80? And the G82/83 will keep the same aesthetics as current while G80 has introduced its LCI?

Depending on how drastically the LCI changes G80, the current version might end up becoming a real rarity down the line.

M3 Sedans always got an LCI the model year after introduction, until the G80 which will get it two model years after.

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by Frosty

..Is there any chance of an electric Coupe in the BMW lineup?

Sure. By 2035-ish I would expect some sort of electric two door BMW. And I would not be surprised if it were the only coupe in the lineup by that time. I say that because I expect the 8er Coupe and Z4 to disappear after the current generation, while I could see the 2er and 4er coupes merge into a single model going by some new name.

an i4 with the body of the G82 ?

I think we can safely rule that out. The G82 will be ancient history by 2035. And even the i4 name might not be around then (though it just as easily could be).

[Poleposition]

Does anyone know if in fact the 2022 F90's which are supposedly starting to be built next month have any significant update from the 21's like Laser lights or anything to speak of? (Specifically for the US market). I know they've been available on Canadian cars as well as in the EU

[Orjan]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

November 2021:

G30 Alpina B5
G30 Alpina D5
G31 Alpina B5

G30/31 Alpinas are already on the used-market in Europe.

[Bemari]

Originally Posted by Poleposition

Does anyone know if in fact the 2022 F90's which are supposedly starting to be built next month have any significant update from the 21's like Laser lights or anything to speak of? (Specifically for the US market). I know they've been available on Canadian cars as well as in the EU

MY 2022 SOP is 1st of July, for all model ranges. Last year BMW informed the MY 21 changes on 27.5., so I would expect all possible MY 22 changes to be communicated late May or early June.

[Poleposition]

Thx Juvi

[swanseahammer]

Any news / rumours on an electric 3 series for the UK?

[bgexpress]

Do we know where the G87 will be produced? Also, is the S58 confirmed?

[Fugly M3]

Originally Posted by bgexpress

Do we know where the G87 will be produced? Also, is the S58 confirmed?

Mexico is the only plant scheduled to produce the G42. So, unless BMW plans to build an entirely separate factory elsewhere or adapt another factory to produce a very limited run variant of a volume car they are already producing in a factory built to produce said volume car, Mexico. Not thrilled about that, but it is what it is. S58 is all but certain. After the N55 in the OG M2, I doubt they'll deny the G87 the S58. Probably detuned in some way.

[mbanck]

Originally Posted by swanseahammer

Any news / rumours on an electric 3 series for the UK?

The fully electric i3(L) will launch in China in the near future alongside the i4, but there is no indication that it will show up elsewhere.

[TF]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

i7 renamings, M3 CS shows up, i4 power is known.

The BMW Group Investor Presentation from May 2021 says again „UP TO 390 KW / 530 HP".

https://www.bmwgroup.com/content/dam...ation_2021.pdf

I want these 530HP so bad