[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by G30M

Lance may or may not race in Canada, but both AM's reserve driver will be racing that weekend, so they have to find a replacement for the replacement

nothing about smashing things in the garage at the moment

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...leftPZoIxet80o

Perez

Probably not possible.

[Artemis]

To both forum members who recently collided and went off track trying to gain a lasting advantage: please remain collected and keep it civil. Thank you.

Piece of advice: see #10 of "A Decalogue of Canons for observation in practical life" penned on Feb 21, 1825 in Monticello by Thomas Jefferson in a letter to Thomas Jefferson Smith (source: here):

[GuidoK]

My apologies.

[DrFerry]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Peculiar story: Stroll left Q2 without following the mandatory weighing procedure and didn't face the race stewards twice. Further to rumors that Stroll had a tantrum inside the garage after Q2 (allegedly "damaging equipment in the garage" and "swearing at team members"), an Aston Martin spokesperson said: "Lance was upset". That was later denied by Aston Martin. Race stewards ordered Stroll to explain during a hearing, scheduled on Saturday post qualies, why he had ignored the weighing procedure. Stroll didn't show up in person - he sent a team delegate: "medical condition". Race stewards waited until Stroll was medically fit to be heard. Later that Saturday evening, Aston Martin informed that Stroll wouldn't participate to the Spanish GP the next day due to his "medical condition". Race stewards didn't back off and scheduled a new hearing in the morning of race day to hear Stroll. Again, Stroll didn't show up in person - he sent a delegate again: "medical condition". Race stewards got presented the 2023 injuries explanation.
That begs the question why Stroll decided not to face the race stewards twice. Reports don't claim that Stroll was in a coma or intensive car or undergoing surgery at that moment + pain killers exist + if need be, a wheel chair can be offered to participate to a hearing ordered by the race stewards. The possibility of self-inflicted new hand injuries by smashing equipment in the garage with his fragile hand (2023 hand injuries), is not incompatible with the official "medical condition" version presented by Aston Martin to the race stewards of sudden serious injuries that prevented Stroll from even attending both hearings and skipping the Spanish GP. Couldn't Stroll have simply shown up at the Sunday morning hearing with an impressive bandage, a cast or a brace, complaining to the race stewards that he's sustaining agonizing pain since Q2. He didn't attend: "medical advice" ? Race stewards would have questioned him about the sequence of events after Q2. Anyways, if it's all that critically dramatic, let's wait and see if Stroll will be declared medically fit to race his home race in Canada (13-15 June). The latest news by Aston Martin: they hope he can, but don't know for now.

Thanks for posting. There seems to be so much more drama this year, and it's barely mid-year. Or perhaps it was just the last two races that tipped some of the drivers and teams over the edge. Whatever the case, I like it.. Roll on Montreal and COTA. The world is watching. And quite closely too. PS: What would be fun and add even more spice is some girlfriend and wives drama...

[G30M]

Originally Posted by Artemis

To both forum members who recently collided and went off track trying to gain a lasting advantage: please remain collected and keep it civil. Thank you.

Piece of advice: see #10 of "A Decalogue of Canons for observation in practical life" penned on Feb 21, 1825 in Monticello by Thomas Jefferson in a letter to Thomas Jefferson Smith (source: here):
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while max and lewis fans be racing hard, meanwhile oscar and lando fans are doing this

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by G30M

while max and lewis fans be racing hard, meanwhile oscar and lando fans are doing this

Amusing but I can't really quite see the connection, it does however remind me of a certain Laren fan who has finally sprung out with the papayas winning a few races

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by G30M

so Ralf has spoken. but i don't know what he's on about. play bumper car to trigger exit clause? there are easier ways to trigger such a clause!

Ralf Schumacher’s crazy theory: “And if Verstappen’s accident got into line with the clause?”:
— Ralf Schumacher questioned whether Verstappen’s clash with George Russell could be linked to an alleged exit clause in his Red Bull contract. Speaking to Sky Deutschland, he floated the idea that Verstappen may have acted intentionally to trigger the clause:
“You have to pay attention to what happened. Since there is a clause in your contract, why do things like this happen all of a sudden? Why did he take such a useless penalty? It could also be that he has made a decision and is trying to ensure that it is successful. We are in a critical phase.”
— The theory suggested Verstappen might be trying to fall out of the top three in the championship by the summer break, allowing him to leave Red Bull for 2026. He currently sits third with 137 points, 26 ahead of Russell.
— De Telegraaf added weight to the speculation, noting Verstappen’s visible agitation and lack of post-race comments from Horner, Marko, and even Toto Wolff. The Dutchman reportedly snapped after qualifying, stating:
“I wasn’t the one who said it, I never talked about the title this year.”

The contract clause if it is there may not be valid as...like Russell did at Monaco...MAX could have ignored the call to let RUS past from 'jump the gun' GP and there would have been no 10 second penalty and no 3 penalty points. So with that manoeuvre it may not count in actioning this hypothetical leave clause should he fall to fourth in the championship.

[G30M]

Originally Posted by HeelToeShift

Lec has never been a push over and when he has the chance, his moves often do lean heavily towards what Max does or might do.

[G30M]

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by G30M

Charlies excuse is entertaining to say the least

[Artemis]

"Incident" – road rage:

Originally Posted by Artemis

In 2019 LEC spoke about that 2012 "inchident" (see 01:00 to 01:09 of the 2012 footage above):

Originally Posted by Artemis

Sometimes fierce competition on track can end with road rage.

2020 - world championship karting - Italy: collision on track between Luca Corberi and Paolo Ippolito. DNF for Corberi. Corberi waits next to the track to throw a front end to his competitor. Corberi attacks his competitor in the stands. Corberi's dad (owner of one of the biggest kart tracks in the world) storms in to equally attack the competitor.

Son and father both went ballistic.

Verdict: 15 year karting ban for Corberi (decision upheld in appeal).

Emotions running high – frustration: "F1 drivers losing their minds" (10:53)
(primal screams: 4:44 (LEC) and 7:24 (VER))

[fs1977]

I saw some creative explanation of the Verstappen-Russel incident today. Verstappen was ahead at the apex, so according to the rulebook it was his corner to take. Russel should have had the penalty

[3798j]

Then there are the incidents prompted by track greed that result in violence...
"The disturbing case from 2000, in which Jos Verstappen and his father, Frans, were charged with assault against a man suffered a skull fracture in a karting track incident. Later, the court had found Jos and Frans guilty, but they escaped jailtime as the pair settled the case with the victim out-of-court."
"Jos Verstappen and his victim got into a fight at the north Belgium kart circuit of Lanaken, and the victim ended up with a fractured skull. The reason for the fight is considered to be the fact that Verstappen wanted the circuit all to himself and his group of friends, but the victim objected against it."
Of course we know that the elder Verstappen's tendencies toward violence have also been directed toward those he loved...

https://firstsportz.com/f1-news-when...rack-incident/

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by G30M

Originally Posted by G30M

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Charlies excuse is entertaining to say the least

Originally Posted by Artemis

"Incident" – road rage:

Emotions running high – frustration: "F1 drivers losing their minds" (10:53)
(primal screams: 4:44 (LEC) and 7:24 (VER))

Come on guys, Charlie is never gonna admit it was just a love tap

Charlie don't take $hit and has to push back once in a while

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Artemis

"Incident" – road rage:

Emotions running high – frustration: "F1 drivers losing their minds" (10:53)
(primal screams: 4:44 (LEC) and 7:24 (VER))

Nigel Mansell @ 1:43 lol what was that all about, looks like cheeky fans there.
MAX has the biggest punch there @4:23

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

Come on guys, Charlie is never gonna admit it was just a love tap
Charlie don't take $hit and has to push back once in a while

Great song added. So when we were at school we all dreamed of being either a rock star or a race car driver

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Nigel Mansell @ 1:43 lol what was that all about, looks like cheeky fans there.
MAX has the biggest punch there @4:23

Mansell indeed went ballistic, like a killer on the loose: 1:39-1:52

Piquet martial arts: 3:40-4:01

As indicated before, primal screams of Leclerc or KBD (4:34-4:55) and Verstappen or ///M Power-Belgium (0:51-1:16 + 7:22-7:27).

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Mansell indeed went ballistic, like a killer on the loose: 01:39-01:52

Piquet martial arts: 3:40-4:01

As indicated before, primal screams of Leclerc or KBD (4:34-4:55) and Verstappen or ///M Power-Belgium (0:51-1:16 + 7:22-7:27).

Well me too as well as MP-B being RBR fans..eeek! at what's happening now but someone somewhere in MK will sort it soon.
At least 'our Nige' had self control there, 'watch it mate I'm only human'. The '92 world champ has always been a golf fanatic and has a great life now in Dorset last I read.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by 3798j

Then there are the incidents prompted by track greed that result in violence...
"The disturbing case from 2000, in which Jos Verstappen and his father, Frans, were charged with assault against a man suffered a skull fracture in a karting track incident. Later, the court had found Jos and Frans guilty, but they escaped jailtime as the pair settled the case with the victim out-of-court."
"Jos Verstappen and his victim got into a fight at the north Belgium kart circuit of Lanaken, and the victim ended up with a fractured skull. The reason for the fight is considered to be the fact that Verstappen wanted the circuit all to himself and his group of friends, but the victim objected against it."
Of course we know that the elder Verstappen's tendencies toward violence have also been directed toward those he loved...

https://firstsportz.com/f1-news-when...rack-incident/

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[3798j]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

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Are you saying you embrace sociopaths?

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

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I'm not saying GP should be kicked out immediately but any final decisions of 'handing a place back' should be finalised by Horner himself. AFAIK all such decisions are only made by Wolff at Mercedes so Horner better sort it quick.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

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Keep doing the Euro lottery my friend, not won yet and currently stands at $208M
* Make that nearly £154M or 183M euros.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

I'm already afraid of what Red Bull freak-car the Frenchman will create for the 2026 season..
Within 3-4 races the 2026 RB22 creature will be his priority and he won't look back to the RB21 .
And I don't even speak about that failed FORD espresso machine ...

I foresee a total collapse of the Red Bull Team (!)
If I was MAX , I wouldn't think twice and go ASAP...

Originally Posted by M5Rick

I'm not saying GP should be kicked out immediately but any final decisions of 'handing a place back' should be finalised by Horner himself. AFAIK all such decisions are only made by Wolff at Mercedes so Horner better sort it quick.

Bad news for the Red Bull and MAX fans , as I said in my post above ..

Red Bull stops the RB21 updates and gives up the 2025 title fight (!)
The Red Bull priority is from now on the 2026 RB22 car , and I'm pretty sure MAX already knew it at the Barcelona GP that's why his race was actually a reflection from all his frustrations at the track ..
Source is the Dutch article => https://formule1nieuws.nl/modules/news&storyid=53161