[bavarianboar]

All the hate here.

Where did CF originate from? It’s all synthetic man made stuff. Pretty sure when it was introduced like this new natural fiber composite, it would have gotten a lot of hate. Then it became cooler.

CF pattern isn’t pretty to begin with, it saved weight and was durable, used all across automotive racing, some in aviation and aerospace. If they can develop an alternative it’s not the end of the world.

As with material science things wil Improve in “texture”/pattern.

It’s going to be painful, very painful to transition but it will be better. Buy your ///M car now. Everything is crashing honestly, before we get used to the “greener” materials.

[IcewaterPete]

Originally Posted by Cortexiphan

So I’m guessing you’re…just a bully…

LMAO!

Can you please stop using the word bully every time someone shares their own thoughts? Just because someone knows something you don’t or has a different idea doesn’t make it bullying. Actually it makes you the bully for suggesting they are idiots because they have a different view. Now go plug in your conveyance…in Boston…

[cosmicamnesia]

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

If it’s any better than that disintegrating quasi carbon roof they put on the M2CS they might be onto something

Is that stuff not holding up well? I always liked the funky checkerboard pattern, but I did wonder about the strength. A tighter weave always seemed to make more sense to me, strength-wise, but then that CS roof came along and they claimed it was more rigid than the traditional weave.
Is it the carbon itself that's not holding up, or is it sealed poorly and letting some liquid in or something? I've heard about issues with the seals on carbon roofs, but this is the first time I've seen one described as, "disintegrating", lol.

[04S]

Originally Posted by JJacksonIII

Wow, people are predictable. Change no good! Me like metal dashboards! And steel stronger than aluminum!

Let's just freeze time and stop all future innovation so we don't upset the know-it-alls.

Sorry mate. If this stuff was better than carbon fibre don’t you think that F1 would be using it ?? Last time I looked they were not using it. If there was a good reason to they would. This has nothing to do with real innovation.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by cosmicamnesia

…

Yes the M2CS roofs have this problem and it’s caused by body flex and it’s a known issue but few understand why it actually happens

[BWilson263]

Not a big fan of. Will have to see in person first.

[NSXR]

Originally Posted by F32Fleet

The EU is considering a ban on carbon fiber.


https://engineerine.com/eu-ban-carbon-fiber/

I'm not the EU, but it wouldn't matter, the way things are going I can't imagine there being a new vehicle I would want in 2029.

I guess I'm showing my age, but this new crop of cars is just getting worse and worse, despite the better and better numbers.

[DEFYGRAV1TY]

I honestly think it looks really good

[Tallest]

is it ok that i dont care that they replace it and think CF looked always dated after like 2011?--- so whatever BMW, replace it with you green stuff. save the trees and all, oh never mind.

[KevinGS]

The expected reaction from the masses. We humans....most of us just don't like change.

"Change is hard because people overestimate the value of what they have and underestimate the value of what they may gain by giving that up."

[Cortexiphan]

Originally Posted by IcewaterPete

LMAO!

Can you please stop using the word bully every time someone shares their own thoughts? Just because someone knows something you don’t or has a different idea doesn’t make it bullying. Actually it makes you the bully for suggesting they are idiots because they have a different view. Now go plug in your conveyance…in Boston…

Can you please stop trolling things you have no idea about? This isn’t an “idea.” Mocking and insulting something you’ve never seen and know nothing about isn’t critique—it’s ignorance and bullying. There’s no "idea"here, just a reflection of your own idiocy and whatever problems you have. Now go top off your gas tank in whatever gas-guzzler you’re driving—wherever that may be.

[jkoral]

Originally Posted by hotrod182

Wouldn't be so bad if it had a darker/high contrast look. Right now it is too light with a milky almost appearance.

Mentioned earlier in the thread, but no one posted any pictures.

From the Porsche 718 Cayman GT4 Clubsport, which used the material for wing and doors (back in 2019).

From https://www.roadandtrack.com/motorsp...gt4-clubsport/

[kudos]

Originally Posted by jkoral

Mentioned earlier in the thread, but no one posted any pictures.

From the Porsche 718 Cayman GT4 Clubsport, which used the material for wing and doors (back in 2019).

From https://www.roadandtrack.com/motorsp...gt4-clubsport/

Wing looks fine. The door looks terrible.

[heisenbergB58]

Oh man, the vegans are going to love this one hehe

[crypto]

Originally Posted by BroDoze

Watch it sucks ass compared to the real thing - just like every other green alternative material. Vegan “leather”, water-based paints etc.

In before the disappointment.

Too late bro, I’m already disappointed. 😂

[drexplode]

Given the postive drastic improvements of Sensatec/Sensafin/alternatives to leather over the past few years, this is exciting. This is Gen1 and i'm sure it will continue to improve over time.

[SexyRoger]

Originally Posted by BroDoze

Watch it sucks ass compared to the real thing - just like every other green alternative material. Vegan “leather”, water-based paints etc.

In before the disappointment.

fake bacon and burgers. LOL

[Striker01]

This is going to be “great”.

With you new “iM3” and the plant based fibre lol

Fk my life. Get your M cars now as the fella above said.

[GOLFFRR]

hmm need to see it in person

[Mrproper86]

Its all about pleasing emissions. Absolutely ridiculous and will not go along with it. Meanwhile we dropped idk how many bombs in iran, russia and ukraine blowing each other up, and china burning coal like nobody else and lets not talk about alo the other countrys. No thanks.
Send me the that overpriced carbon fiber and move on.

[gemini.m3]

That's a yikes from me. WTF is going on, lol.

The people defending it are inhaling massive amounts of copium. This reminds me of the abomination that was that "forged" look people used for awhile that was ricey as hell, glad that trend seems to have gone by the wayside.

[BlkGS]

Originally Posted by gemini.m3

That's a yikes from me. WTF is going on, lol.

The people defending it are inhaling massive amounts of copium. This reminds me of the abomination that was that "forged" look people used for awhile that was ricey as hell, glad that trend seems to have gone by the wayside.

Forged carbon at least made sense. Take scraps of carbon fabric and don't care about weave pattern and let it do its thing. Forged carbon should have just been a way to make carbon fiber cheaper, then paint over the result.