[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by MJBO

Yep. Plenty of Cayennes to sell in that time.

Different buyer. The Z4 dies March of 26 also. Probably drive people to CPO 911 and 718

[Tuxedo]

I considered this model until rumors started 3yrs ago the Z4 was going to get a manual. I would like to rent one of these someday If IF I see one on Turo or the like at my destination for instance.

[RockCrusher]

Very nice! I bought a new Boxster in 2002. Owned it for 16 years and put 317K miles on the car. Wonderful car.

Many happy miles in your Boxster!

[XutvJet]

Congrats and welcome to the club. I'm not a 718 owner but rather a 2011 Cayman 6MT Base owner and I'm NEVER getting rid of this car unless it becomes impossible to find parts. I've owned it for 2.5 years, drive the crap out of it, maintain and fix it, etc. It is just a joy to own and drive. These cars are just so much freaking fun.

Just be aware that even the best handling BMW doesn't stand a chance against what these mid engine Porsches are capable of and it will totally change your perspective on what is considered an excellent handling car. Everyone talks about how amazing an F87 M2 handles (i own one too,) and i agree, it's astounding. But compared to my Cayman that is still on the Base 12 y/o suspension, it's not even close. I love both cars equally, but in very different ways.

[RockCrusher]

Originally Posted by XutvJet

Congrats and welcome to the club. I'm not a 718 owner but rather a 2011 Cayman 6MT Base owner and I'm NEVER getting rid of this car unless it becomes impossible to find parts. I've owned it for 2.5 years, drive the crap out of it, maintain and fix it, etc. It is just a joy to own and drive. These cars are just so much freaking fun.

Just be aware that even the best handling BMW doesn't stand a chance against what these mid engine Porsches are capable of and it will totally change your perspective on what is considered an excellent handling car. Everyone talks about how amazing an F87 M2 handles (i own one too,) and i agree, it's astounding. But compared to my Cayman that is still on the Base 12 y/o suspension, it's not even close. I love both cars equally, but in very different ways.

I bought the 2002 Boxster to experience a car with mid engine location handling. The Boxster did not disappoint. It put all other cars I had owned up until then to shame. Granted it didn't take much to shame a '96 Ford Mustang GT and a 2002 Camaro Z28.

And really all cars since the Boxster. With the exception of my (too brief) time with my 2008 Cayman S and my 8 years (150K miles) with my 2003 996 Turbo. Obviously the Cayman S was a handler equal to the Boxster with the Turbo a close second.

My 2023 M2 wasn't too shabby in the handling department and the same can be said for my 2024 M8.

To be sure beyond the edge in handling at least the Turbo and the same can be said for my 2 230i's and my M2 and my M8 match up well even surpass the Boxster in other areas. For sure I'd not trade my M8 for a Boxster/Cayman for love or money.

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by XutvJet

Congrats and welcome to the club. I'm not a 718 owner but rather a 2011 Cayman 6MT Base owner and I'm NEVER getting rid of this car unless it becomes impossible to find parts. I've owned it for 2.5 years, drive the crap out of it, maintain and fix it, etc. It is just a joy to own and drive. These cars are just so much freaking fun.

Just be aware that even the best handling BMW doesn't stand a chance against what these mid engine Porsches are capable of and it will totally change your perspective on what is considered an excellent handling car. Everyone talks about how amazing an F87 M2 handles (i own one too,) and i agree, it's astounding. But compared to my Cayman that is still on the Base 12 y/o suspension, it's not even close. I love both cars equally, but in very different ways.

The low weight and feel of the car is what really sets it apart. Before I took delivery I was able to drive a base 718 cayman PDK for a few months (couple thousand miles, took a few mountain drives) to get acclimated. What a joy in the handling department! Now I get to add a bit more power and top down to the experience with better brakes and a manual transmission. The manual boxster feels more engaging for sure, and it’s definitely a pure roadster. I had the g29 z4 and every m3 since the e46, but this is a dream car for me. Your car has the added benefit of better feel in the mechanical steering department and likely better sound too.

[MJBO]

Originally Posted by Bimmerfun82

Different buyer. The Z4 dies March of 26 also. Probably drive people to CPO 911 and 718

Was a joke, not suggesting that 718 buyers are Cayenne buyers.

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by MJBO

Was a joke, not suggesting that 718 buyers are Cayenne buyers. Attachment 3678116

Great drawing

[wrickem]

Beautiful spec, great choice. I’ve had 3 Boxsters and 4 Carreras and the Boxsters are so much more engaging and fun to drive for me than the 911’s.

I love the handling of the mid engine Porsches. A Boxster/Cayman feels like a true sports car compared to my current Carrera S (which feels more like a grand touring car to me). I’ll be trading back to a Boxster soon too.

Good luck, great choice!

[No one]

Originally Posted by MJBO

Was a joke, not suggesting that 718 buyers are Cayenne buyers.

You should work on your joke pitch, perhaps. It did look fairly serious.

[ctelimad]

Originally Posted by Bimmerfun82

Finally took the plunge into Porsche with the Boxster/Cayman going electric in 2026 - or possibly hybrid. Ordered to spec and took 4 months from deposit to arrival at my dealer. This is a keeper. It’s agonizing picking and selecting options, but I am happy with the result. Porsche prices are a bit absurd. But acquiring a NA flat 6 manual was worth it, at least in my view. Anyone else buying a 718 before it’s too late?

(Will update pics when the clear side markers are installed.)

First congratulations!!
Enjoy in good health
Matter of facts i ve been looking for boxter gts for the last couple of weeks (pdk version) and i just need to find one with good spec that i like
I also have g90 m5 as a daily and this is my first porsche and a weekend car

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by ctelimad

First congratulations!!
Enjoy in good health
Matter of facts i ve been looking for boxter gts for the last couple of weeks (pdk version) and i just need to find one with good spec that i like
I also have g90 m5 as a daily and this is my first porsche and a weekend car

Shouldn't be hard to find - there are quite a few out there in PDK new and CPO and on auction sites. Hope you find what you're looking for

[ctelimad]

Originally Posted by Bimmerfun82

Shouldn't be hard to find - there are quite a few out there in PDK new and CPO and on auction sites. Hope you find what you're looking for

Thank you
Yes i saw a few on porsched dealers website but the one i saw and i liked i felt little overpriced
It is a 2024 red cpo with few options and msrp of 122k and 9500 miles 109k$
I saw another one 2023 cpo white and red interior and red top with msrp 110k and 2500 miles but 104k
I am more towards the red one but the price little high for the mileage (almost 10 k miles )
What do you think?

[slilley]

Welcome to the club! I went with the roofed version, since I do autocross and track it. I've had it 3 years now. The sound of the 4-liter engine above 5K makes it almost worth the price of admission. I have the stock sport exhaust but replaced the stock over-axle pipes with Akrapovic ones. An exhaust valve controller is highly recommended, so you can be a mature adult (valves closed) or an irresponsible adult and look for excuses to hit redline as often as possible.

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by slilley

Welcome to the club! I went with the roofed version, since I do autocross and track it. I've had it 3 years now. The sound of the 4-liter engine above 5K makes it almost worth the price of admission. I have the stock sport exhaust but replaced the stock over-axle pipes with Akrapovic ones. An exhaust valve controller is highly recommended, so you can be a mature adult (valves closed) or an irresponsible adult and look for excuses to hit redline as often as possible.

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It’s a sleeper, love the understated look. I felt the Spyder and GT4 were a bit too stiff for what I want to do with the car, and no tracking for me. Any unusual maintenance on the car or just normal wear and tear?

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by ctelimad

Thank you
Yes i saw a few on porsched dealers website but the one i saw and i liked i felt little overpriced
It is a 2024 red cpo with few options and msrp of 122k and 9500 miles 109k$
I saw another one 2023 cpo white and red interior and red top with msrp 110k and 2500 miles but 104k
I am more towards the red one but the price little high for the mileage (almost 10 k miles )
What do you think?

I’m a sucker for CPO. But I think there are better deals out there especially PDK. Of course it’s approaching spring so will be more demand for a convertible. BAT prices seem to have dropped a lot but have to add fees and shipping - and cars are few and far between. If you’re willing to get one 3rd party (with a transferable factory warranty, assume this is possible but not sure) you could check this aggregation site out https://www.classic.com/m/porsche/718/boxster/gts-40/

[ctelimad]

Originally Posted by Bimmerfun82

I’m a sucker for CPO. But I think there are better deals out there especially PDK. Of course it’s approaching spring so will be more demand for a convertible. BAT prices seem to have dropped a lot but have to add fees and shipping - and cars are few and far between. If you’re willing to get one 3rd party (with a transferable factory warranty, assume this is possible but not sure) you could check this aggregation site out https://www.classic.com/m/porsche/718/boxster/gts-40/

Yes i prefer a cpo
I think the red one should be more like 104 to 105k
I will inquire with them to see if they will negotiate the price
Thank you for the link

[XutvJet]

I personally think CPO is a total farce. My 2011 Cayman with 65k miles, which I bought from Porsche Colorado Springs in October 2022, was CPO'd. I incorrectly assumed that CPO'd meant that the certifying dealer would have gone through the car with a fine tooth comb and that there would be no need to have an independent shop look at it. I could not have been more wrong and my story is consistent with what others have experienced in the last 4 or so years with CPO'd cars. I did not expect a 12 y/o car to be perfect and free from all defects and I expected I'd need to put about $2000-3000 into the car within the first year. I was cool with that because this Cayman was of one hell of a spec including a super rare LSD. After getting my Cayman home and looking it over, I realized was full of issues and since I had not been able to test drive 987.2 6MT, because they are so rare, I did not notice all of the issues on my 10 mile test drive but did start to suspect some issues on my 600 mile driver home to KC. Regarding the clutch, the salesmen said that Porsche clutch pedals are really heavy so I believed him. Whoops.

Things missed by CPO:

1) Torn engine mount
2) Sagging transmission mounts
3) Cracked AOS vacuum line
4) Worn out clutch and failing dual mass flywheel. Upon removal of the clutch/flywheel, the independent shop (which is run be former Porsche techs) said the clutch and flywheel should have NEVER passed CPO.
5) Completely perished front suspension bump stops.
6) Completely perished rear hatch rubber stops/foots.
7) Seriously stretched and worn cable shifter rods and worn shifter bushings.
8) An engine bay that had not ever been cleaned. It was brown with so much grime. It took me 4 hours to clean it and inspect it. I also pulled out two softball size debris piles from mice living under the intake manifold.

When I realized all of the problems, I took the car to my local Porsche dealer and they gave me an estimate of around $14K to fix everything. NONE of it would be covered by CPO because it was considered wear and tear. I confronted Porsche Colorado Springs and not until I threatened to approach Porsche US did they offer me a settlement of $3500. I had a new clutch and flywheel installed for $2800 and did the remaining work myself for around $3000 in parts.

The good news is once I fixed all the issues, the car has been great and looks basically new now. Never got to use the 2 year CPO warranty.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by XutvJet

I personally think CPO is a total farce. My 2011 Cayman with 65k miles, which I bought from Porsche Colorado Springs in October 2022, was CPO'd. I incorrectly assumed that CPO'd meant that the certifying dealer would have gone through the car with a fine tooth comb and that there would be no need to have an independent shop look at it. I could not have been more wrong and my story is consistent with what others have experienced in the last 4 or so years with CPO'd cars. I did not expect a 12 y/o car to be perfect and free from all defects and I expected I'd need to put about $2000-3000 into the car within the first year. I was cool with that because this Cayman was of one hell of a spec including a super rare LSD. After getting my Cayman home and looking it over, I realized was full of issues and since I had not been able to test drive 987.2 6MT, because they are so rare, I did not notice all of the issues on my 10 mile test drive but did start to suspect some issues on my 600 mile driver home to KC. Regarding the clutch, the salesmen said that Porsche clutch pedals are really heavy so I believed him. Whoops.

Things missed by CPO:

1) Torn engine mount
2) Sagging transmission mounts
3) Cracked AOS vacuum line
4) Work out clutch and failing dual mass flywheel
5) Completely perished front suspension bump stops.
6) Completely perished rear hatch rubber stops/foots.
7) Seriously stretched and worn cable shifter rods and worn shifter bushings.
8) An engine bay that had not ever been cleaned. It was brown with so much grime. It took me 3 hours to clean it and inspect it. I also pulled out two softball size debris piles from mice living under the intake manifold.

When I realized all of the problems, I took the car to my local Porsche dealer and they gave me an estimate of around $14K to fix everything. NONE of it would be covered by CPO because it was considered wear and tear. I confronted Porsche Colorado Springs and not until I threatened to approach Porsche US did they offer me a settlement of $3500. I had a new clutch and flywheel installed for $2800 and did the remaining work myself for around $3000 in parts.

The good news is once I fixed all the issues, the car has been great and looks basically new now.

It's the same anywhere you go. A used car is a used car regardless of who is selling it. Pre-sale, expert inspection by the selling dealer is complete BS. CarMax is the same way. They find cars that clean up nice and sell them. I had the same experience with my Z4 Coupe from CarMax.

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by XutvJet

I personally think CPO is a total farce. My 2011 Cayman with 65k miles, which I bought from Porsche Colorado Springs in October 2022, was CPO'd. I incorrectly assumed that CPO'd meant that the certifying dealer would have gone through the car with a fine tooth comb and that there would be no need to have an independent shop look at it. I could not have been more wrong and my story is consistent with what others have experienced in the last 4 or so years with CPO'd cars. I did not expect a 12 y/o car to be perfect and free from all defects and I expected I'd need to put about $2000-3000 into the car within the first year. I was cool with that because this Cayman was of one hell of a spec including a super rare LSD. After getting my Cayman home and looking it over, I realized was full of issues and since I had not been able to test drive 987.2 6MT, because they are so rare, I did not notice all of the issues on my 10 mile test drive but did start to suspect some issues on my 600 mile driver home to KC. Regarding the clutch, the salesmen said that Porsche clutch pedals are really heavy so I believed him. Whoops.

Things missed by CPO:

1) Torn engine mount
2) Sagging transmission mounts
3) Cracked AOS vacuum line
4) Worn out clutch and failing dual mass flywheel. Upon removal of the clutch/flywheel, the independent shop (which is run be former Porsche techs) said the clutch and flywheel should have NEVER passed CPO.
5) Completely perished front suspension bump stops.
6) Completely perished rear hatch rubber stops/foots.
7) Seriously stretched and worn cable shifter [...]

That is a crazy, crazy story. Thanks for sharing. It is rather unusual for a car manufacturer to provide a certified pre owned on cars older than the original warranty period. Should have guessed they’d pull stunts like this.

[XutvJet]

Originally Posted by Bimmerfun82

That is a crazy, crazy story. Thanks for sharing. It is rather unusual for a car manufacturer to provide a certified pre owned on cars older than the original warranty period. Should have guessed they’d pull stunts like this.

I blame COVID. I bought during the crazy car sales time and all dealers got real arrogant and lazy about the quality of used cars they were selling. I think Porsche Colorado Springs got real nervous about me ratting them out to Porsche US. All I had to say was I'm giving you guys a bunch of 1s on your review and would be calling Porsche US. They quickly changed their tune and offered a settlement.

[MisanoblueZ4]

Originally Posted by XutvJet

I personally think CPO is a total farce. My 2011 Cayman with 65k miles, which I bought from Porsche Colorado Springs in October 2022, was CPO'd. I incorrectly assumed that CPO'd meant that the certifying dealer would have gone through the car with a fine tooth comb and that there would be no need to have an independent shop look at it. I could not have been more wrong and my story is consistent with what others have experienced in the last 4 or so years with CPO'd cars. I did not expect a 12 y/o car to be perfect and free from all defects and I expected I'd need to put about $2000-3000 into the car within the first year. I was cool with that because this Cayman was of one hell of a spec including a super rare LSD. After getting my Cayman home and looking it over, I realized was full of issues and since I had not been able to test drive 987.2 6MT, because they are so rare, I did not notice all of the issues on my 10 mile test drive but did start to suspect some issues on my 600 mile driver home to KC. Regarding the clutch, the salesmen said that Porsche clutch pedals are really heavy so I believed him. Whoops.

Things missed by CPO:

1) Torn engine mount
2) Sagging transmission mounts
3) Cracked AOS vacuum line
4) Worn out clutch and failing dual mass flywheel. Upon removal of the clutch/flywheel, the independent shop (which is run be former Porsche techs) said the clutch and flywheel should have NEVER passed CPO.
5) Completely perished front suspension bump stops.
6) Completely perished rear hatch rubber stops/foots.
7) Seriously stretched and worn cable shifter [...]

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And to think dealers mark up CPO, SMH. Glad you got the car sorted and kept it. You have more patience then I do, once a car becomes a headache I look to move on lol.