[GuidoK]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

With just 4 laps to go , the gap is still 1.5 sec. to RUS .

MAX won't see the Miami podium . Too bad ...

McLaren wins this race with the tyre cooling advantage (!)

RUS got lucky with the VSC (it is what it is, sometimes you get lucky sometimes you dont), and for the rest drove a constant race.
A clear signal that McLaren has the fastest car, and team Merc probably the 2nd fastest.
You wonder how long it'll take before Williams has a superior car to RB

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by GuidoK

At Ferrari they're now swapping again.
So the net result of this was 0


And LEC not happy and Hammy not happy....

This is just managing two drivers, its never a happy ending in such a situation.

[3798j]

McLaren controls...What a showing!

[Rono63]

Three in a row for Oscar!!!

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

With just 4 laps to go , the gap is still 1.5 sec. to RUS .

MAX won't see the Miami podium . Too bad ...

McLaren wins this race with the tyre cooling advantage (!)

Oh well roll on Imola and we'll see the big RBR upgrade make a difference hopefully on a wing and a prayer...no song from me today
and we can get more info about those tyre coolers too.

[GuidoK]

Easy 1-2 for McLaren. PIA drove a faultless race in a superior car.
This will be his year.

That was a close moment at the end between SAI and HAM
Some personal honor involved there

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by GuidoK

Easy 1-2 for McLaren. PIA drove a faultless race in a superior car.
This will be his year.

That was a close moment at the end between SAI and HAM
Some personal honor involved there

It's just those tyre coolers that make them quick..and they had new PU's.

[gohawks23]

Originally Posted by GuidoK

And basically every year it's a new car. For sure they build on last year tech, but differences between cars (and also differences between drivers) are compared to what normal humans experience and can imagine very small

THX! Where are the 'big' changes being made in tech? Hardware with wind resistance, grip or software with shifting, stability, etc.?

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Oh well roll on Imola and we'll see the big RBR upgrade make a difference hopefully on a wing and a prayer...no song from me today
and we can get more info about those tyre coolers too.

Did you see the last 20 sec. in the last lap ?

Well ...LEW got 2 fist punches from SAINZ (!)

[TheBingoBalls]

McLaren in a different league to the rest of the grid - Piastri has proved that he should be the lead driver moving forward.

Ferrari what in the fk was that race? The entire team has no clue what they are doing and what they want to do. The complete rebuild of the car isn't working and they don't know how to fix it and the strategy/communication is probably at its worst.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by gohawks23

THX! Where are the 'big' changes being made in tech? Hardware with wind resistance, grip or software with shifting, stability, etc.?

Google is your friend ...

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Did you see the last 20 sec. in the last lap ?

Well ...LEW got 2 fist punches from SAINZ (!)

I'll see it in the re-run, hot blooded Carlo and dejected LEW

[gohawks23]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Google is your friend ...

Duh, AI too, I get it but I like individual opinions!

Max seems pretty ordinary driver this year since his car advantage has fallen off...but why the huge gap between him and his teammate? Is the other driver not so good because cars should be pretty similar?

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by TheBingoBalls

McLaren in a different league to the rest of the grid - Piastri has proved that he should be the lead driver moving forward.

Ferrari what in the fk was that race? The entire team has no clue what they are doing and what they want to do. The complete rebuild of the car isn't working and they don't know how to fix it and the strategy/communication is probably at its worst.

It's the cars and normal for Ferrari in this instance with the tyre situation.

[M5Rick]

I need to rest my eyes, damn screen lol

[M3WC]

Originally Posted by gohawks23

Max seems pretty ordinary driver this year since his car advantage has fallen off...but why the huge gap between him and his teammate? Is the other driver not so good because cars should be pretty similar?

Max had no business getting last two pole positions against the Mclaren rocket ships. The guy is a madman.

No other car on grid has Mclaren magic tire wear.

[GuidoK]

Originally Posted by gohawks23

THX! Where are the 'big' changes being made in tech? Hardware with wind resistance, grip or software with shifting, stability, etc.?

Aero.
Sometimes you see a new suspension geometry but often a big aspect of that is also how the air flows over those wishbones etc.
And with aero, it's also how close you can seek the boundries of the rules.
Like at the moment some feel parts of the McLaren wings bend just a bit too much under certain speeds whereas they clearly pass the current testing system. So the FIA is also constantly looking for improving their measurement systems so see if the car complies with the rules and if their measurement systems/rules are in line with the spirit of the rules.
obiously changing rules mid season is a hassle for teams, but usually only for the teams that profit from a feature that's not really inline with the spirit of the rules and gives them at that aspect a unique but powerful advantage.

That last thing also means that other teams cant get that implemented in their own cars in such a way that it gives them that advantage (otherwise they'd do that too, that is tactically a better scenario).
Also the time you can do windtunnel testing (in 1/3rd scale I believe) and do computer models is limited. Building an actual car and test it for yourself on a testtrack is completely forbidden. So development takes mostly place in a virtual world.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Oh well roll on Imola and we'll see the big RBR upgrade make a difference hopefully on a wing and a prayer...no song from me today
and we can get more info about those tyre coolers too.

It won't be at Imola . The RB21 upgrade will be at race 9 : Barcelona.
Hopefully 'something will work for the RB21 brake and tyre cooling..
If not ...This season will be over for MAX and the Red Bull Team.
Too bad ...It is what it is .
But actually we know very well what it is ..

[M3WC]

Originally Posted by TheBingoBalls

Ferrari what in the fk was that race? The entire team has no clue what they are doing and what they want to do. The complete rebuild of the car isn't working and they don't know how to fix it and the strategy/communication is probably at its worst.

My question is...was Hamilton not aware Leclerc and Vasseur relationship goes back to carting? Hamilton finding out today he is indeed the number 2 driver. He should have stayed with Merc.

As far as strategies...Ferrari doing Ferrari things.

[Killed by Death]

😴

[gohawks23]

Originally Posted by GuidoK

Aero.
Sometimes you see a new suspension geometry but often a big aspect of that is also how the air flows over those wishbones etc.
And with aero, it's also how close you can seek the boundries of the rules.
Like at the moment some feel parts of the McLaren wings bend just a bit too much under certain speeds whereas they clearly pass the current testing system. So the FIA is also constantly looking for improving their measurement systems so see if the car complies with the rules and if their measurement systems/rules are in line with the spirit of the rules.
obiously changing rules mid season is a hassle for teams, but usually only for the teams that profit from a feature that's not really inline with the spirit of the rules and gives them at that aspect a unique but powerful advantage.

That last thing also means that other teams cant get that implemented in their own cars in such a way that it gives them that advantage (otherwise they'd do that too, that is tactically a better scenario).
Also the time you can do windtunnel testing (in 1/3rd scale I believe) and do computer models is limited. Building an actual car and test it for yourself on a testtrack is completely forbidden. So development takes mostly place in a virtual world.

Very very interesting, thank you for taking the time!

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by gohawks23

Duh, AI too, I get it but I like individual opinions!

Max seems pretty ordinary driver this year since his car advantage has fallen off...but why the huge gap between him and his teammate? Is the other driver not so good because cars should be pretty similar?

Well the RB21 has a fundamental design flaw and It's a miracle that MAX still can win a few races in his Frankenstein car .
MAX still can win , but with the MAX-factor (!)
Since last year , McLaren has a huge advantage with a tyre and brake cooling system or whatever it can be ...
That's why McLaren is unbeatable because their tyres last forever..
As you know : Power is nothing without control (!)

As you can read => https://racingnews365.com/red-bull-p...ed-rb21-f1-car